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Furious Rick Santorum Fights Charlie Rose Over 'Gotcha' Question On Aspirin Joke: 'This Is What You Guys Do!'

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Rick Santorum is sick of talking about Foster Friess..Can you blame him? This is a candidate surging to the front of the pack right now who could change everything with a win in Michigan, and it’s a candidate who, all along, has had to work around the perception that his personal views on social issues might be too extreme and out dated for 2012′s America. So, of course he’s angry that he’s spent every interview of the last day talking about a crappy, sexist joke that should have stayed in the 1950s. It appeared that that anger hit its boiling point this morning on CBS when Charlie Rose tried to broach the topic again.

Rose asked Santorum what he’s said to Friess since the supporter shocked Andrea Mitchell by explaining that, in his day,* women’s contraceptive just involved holding aspirin between their legs. At that moment, Santorum looked a little bit like (and I’m sure this will be the only time in any of our lives that this comparison is made) Kate Upton yesterday on Fox getting asked to do the Dougie for the millionth time. However, unlike the model, Santorum couldn’t hide his frustration, quickly accusing Rose of asking a “gotcha” question.**

*Certain people should just stop talking whenever the phrase “in my day” exits their lips.
**Speaking of things that could have stayed in the past, would our society have been hurt too much if the phrase “gotcha question” had ended with the 2008 election? It’s like the world’s stupidest word.

Rose defended his question as a necessary look into a candidate’s beliefs and things got heated:

SANTORUM: Hold on, Charlie. When you quote a bad joke from a supporter of mine that somehow I’m responsible for, that’s “gotcha.”

ROSE: No one’s saying your responsible, Senator. They’re asking how you would characterize it and what you said to him. Not that you were responsible. It’s to understand how you differ from what this person said.

SANTORUM: So now I’m gonna have to respond to when every supporter says something. Look, this is what you guys do. You don’t do this with President Obama. In fact, with President Obama, you went out and defended him from someone he sat in a church for 20 years and defended him with “Oh, he can’t possibly believe what he listened to for 20 years.” This is a double standard, it’s what you’re pulling off, and I’m gonna call you on it.

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redsfan

Clearly, Santorum needs to send a mailer to all his top supporters. If they get the urge to tell a reporter a joke their dads might have laughed at at a stag party, just put the microphone between your legs and hold it there.

The media has every right to ask Santorum what his largest backer said...and whether he agrees with such an offensive comment.

  • 91 votes
#1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:48 AM EST
Vlad's dog

Rick is a very angry man with many hidden issues. He just told an audience that mainstream Protestants are controlled by Satan. What till he gets that 'Gotcha' question from the media.

  • 80 votes
#1.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:56 AM EST
redsfan

Really? Wow...those evangelical Christians aren't going to like that!

  • 50 votes
#1.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:05 AM EST
robinm85

Didn't he just get blessed by a church full of evangelical Protestants last week?

  • 24 votes
#1.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:32 PM EST
T1Truth

Guilt by association. Live with it, shut up, or turn down the dollars and disavow. The choices are clear.

  • 35 votes
#1.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:39 PM EST
douglasq

SANTORUM: So now I’m gonna have to respond to when every supporter says something. Look, this is what you guys do. You don’t do this with President Obama.

Bull@!$%#, Rick.

  • 39 votes
#1.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:39 PM EST
redsfan

You don’t do this with President Obama.

Bull@!$%#, Rick.

I know....in a long, long list of blatantly false statements coming from Santorum, this is one of the most ridiculously laughable false statements.

  • 50 votes
#1.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:42 PM EST
Coral Atlas

I never got the impression the Charlie Rose was a controversial figure in the news. Insightful, academic in demeanor ..... and perhaps at times probing. But I skip right over his shows when channel flipping ... on the surface they just seem too cordial and polite. More like friendly chit chats.

Perhaps that is what Santorum expected. ;-)

  • 33 votes
#1.7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:04 PM EST
Agent 57

SANTORUM: So now I’m gonna have to respond to when every supporter says something.

I love the way some on the right frame some of the leading people in their party or as supporters... santorum's suggar daddy is just some supporter.. like grover norquist is just some random person... lol...

  • 42 votes
#1.8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:10 PM EST
redsfan

Coral - I know what you mean. Charlie Rose is very mild-mannered, very intellectual, calm type of interviewer...not exactly the "gotcha" type.

Obviously, this question is well within bounds of what political candidates should be asked. As you say, Agent 57, Santorum is not being asked to defend what some yahoo on the street says, but what his arguably most important supporter said.

  • 32 votes
#1.9 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:21 PM EST
Fred Evil

Rick has no interest in defending his backers, only in whipping them into a 'righteous' fury. The lady at the FL town hall who called Obama a secret Muslim, and so forth.

Rick is perfectly happy to let it go until he gets called on it, and even then it's not his problem.

It's a blatant display of ZERO CHARACTER. Real men call BS when they see it, McCain did it, Santorum doesn't.

  • 34 votes
#1.10 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:27 PM EST
WaltUU

SANTORUM: So now I’m gonna have to respond to when every supporter says something. Look, this is what you guys do. You don’t do this with President Obama. In fact, with President Obama, you went out and defended him from someone he sat in a church for 20 years and defended him with “Oh, he can’t possibly believe what he listened to for 20 years.” This is a double standard, it’s what you’re pulling off, and I’m gonna call you on it.

This is so inane - no - it's an outright lie. Obama was asked to repudiate Wright and he did:

Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.

Why can't Santorum repudiate Friess's words and move on? I timed it... it took me 19 seconds to speak those words. After the fifth or sixth time, President Obama got very efficient at repudiating Wright. Is Santorum saying he isn't as capable as President Obama?

  • 34 votes
#1.11 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:53 PM EST
RI Mom

Temper tantrum

Whiner

Defensive

Santorum attributes.

President Obama answered Rev. White comments with a thoughtful, calm response.

We don't need a hot-head for President who can't control his emotions.

  • 34 votes
#1.12 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:04 PM EST
cowboygrandpa

Well first off Dick, er Rick, hard to tell the two apart they look so much alike. I'm a protestant Christian of no denomination, so you never had my vote.

But when you go off on Charlie Rose, who is one of the most polite people in a news format, you have shown your complete inability to deal with decent people in a manner that a President should. Let me ask you a couple of questions meat head !!!

Why aren't you running for a cardinal's position instead of the presidency ?? Why aren't you a moral and decent person who knows what compassion is instead of the bull spit you are ??

From what Bible are you reading your hateful propaganda, and why don't you rebuke the evil you are and repent from your self possessed pride of your position ??

I see you as being controlled by the demons you worship, mammon and pride.

  • 27 votes
#1.13 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:10 PM EST
StevieGee

I thought it was a funny joke... about 40 years ago.

  • 8 votes
#1.14 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:14 PM EST
Stevie-445471

Rick is religious, but what we need is a godly person to be president, and we have that it what we have now. Obama/Biden 2012

  • 18 votes
#1.15 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:16 PM EST
MAXX-320489

his backers agree with his ideas he agrees and accepts his backers. now he is squirming around because he chose unwisely. little pussy!

  • 14 votes
#1.16 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:44 PM EST
MartyMoose

There is a difference between a joke and a policy. You would hope people would be intelligent enough to appreciate the difference. Predictably, those who hold a partisan stance opposed to a Republican will try to equate this joke with the policies of a Reverend Wright or Bill Ayers or anyone else associated with the president. But they are not remotely the same thing.

  • 4 votes
#1.17 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:53 PM EST
WaltUU

Reverend Wright wasn't espousing policy. He was preaching Christianity.

Bill Ayers wasn't actually even associated with Obama.

  • 26 votes
#1.18 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:57 PM EST
jumpshotjarrod

Santorum's big problem here as that at the end of the day, his actual policy approach on this issue boils down to EXACTLY what Foster Friess said. Santorum's less crass with his language regarding the topic, but his actual policy position is essentially indistinguishable from Friess' general point.

All Friess did was state out loud what Santorum has being implying all along. Santorum's pissed because Friess' faux pas helps illustrate just how ridiculous Santorum's position is.

  • 26 votes
#1.19 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:14 PM EST
MaryEllen Galloway

#1.11:Why can't Santorum repudiate Friess's words and move on? I timed it... it took me 19 seconds to speak those words. After the fifth or sixth time, President Obama got very efficient at repudiating Wright. Is Santorum saying he isn't as capable as President Obama?

Why of course santorum is not as capable as President Obama! If santorum was, in fact, he woud be President and not a wannabe! In addition, santorum is trying to win (which he won't do under any and all circumstances) so he has to be very, very careful- with everything.

If santorum admits to ANY gaffs in his campaign by anybody, santorum can sell the outhouse cause he just lost his arse. He's hanging in their only by a whisker now- and any malfunction of the least, teeny, tiny bit will end it for him---permanently.

santorum can't move on- there is no place to go!

  • 16 votes
#1.20 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST
82AllAmericans

Why do these guys always cry foul over "gotcha questions"... first lesson, if you allow someone to speak on your behalf (he's spending millions on Rick, so...) then whatever he says is fair game and so are you if you take his money... lesson two, if you're running to be the President of The United States of America... then there are no gotcha questions"... everything is fair game, even the stupid things your supporters say. Stop whining Rick.

  • 14 votes
#1.21 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:54 PM EST
real michaud

I hope the media does not let us down this year. Obama is a good man and a good president, mistakes yes, communist Muslim NO....I hope the media dissects these primordial scum republicans in every district, state, and right on up to their presidential nominee.

We need to throw everything we have at the Republican party...since they are against women's health rights, I guess they are basically for slavery.

  • 15 votes
#1.22 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:55 PM EST
CPOSharkey

This is what happens when you're an altar boy for a blind priest with a speech problem. Rear becomes Ear and next thing you know you have a crooked smile and you're running for President! Talk about brain damaged!

  • 12 votes
#1.23 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:18 PM EST
I'm God

Am I the only person who hears Eric Cartman every time Santorum speaks? I mean,

So now I’m gonna have to respond to when every supporter says something. Look, this is what you guys do. You don’t do this with President Obama. In fact, with President Obama, you went out and defended him from someone he sat in a church for 20 years and defended him with “Oh, he can’t possibly believe what he listened to for 20 years.” This is a double standard, it’s what you’re pulling off, and I’m gonna call you on it!

That's Cartman, right?

  • 11 votes
#1.24 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:34 PM EST
Tappy McWidestance

Santorum supporters live in the 18th century. It is perfectly legitimate to ask him whether if elected he intends to "take back America" to the 1700's.

  • 11 votes
#1.25 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:37 PM EST
skeptic-227981

What Santorum didn't do is distance himself from that ridiculous statement or answer Charlie Rose's question directly.

I'd have to take that to mean that Santorum thinks the same way - or he's too cowardly to come out and discount the statement because he wants Friess's money.

Either way, he failed the interview question.

What he's really afraid of is, people are going to hear that and realize this guy is not a genuine front-runner and then his 'campaign' (read that 'lecture and sermonizing') will go back into the mediocrity where it belongs.

  • 12 votes
#1.26 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:04 PM EST
redsfan

Santorum continues to be really, really upset about being questioned on this issue...

"This is just crap."

-- Rick Santorum, in an interview with National Review, on the media firestorm over comments on contraception made by Santorum Super PAC donor Foster Freiss.

  • 12 votes
#1.27 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:10 PM EST
Adler315

A "gotcha" question it wasn't, but rather a perfectly legitimate inquiry from the distinguished, award-winning interviewer and journalist Charlie Rose, who always conducts himself like the perfect gentleman and the consummate professional he is. I find it very revealing indeed that Santorum should vainly attempt to lump Rose in with so many of the creeps and ambush artists we now see on television [Fox, Fox, Fox, Fox], as if no one should ever have the temerity to question him on any issue. Not good. Not good at all.

No, it wasn't a "gotcha" question, Rick, but by virtue of your petulant demeanor and your childish and overly defensive reaction, you got caught anyway—looking like a real putz.

  • 12 votes
#1.28 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:14 PM EST
mrsrachelm

SANTORUM: So now I’m gonna have to respond to when every supporter says something. Look, this is what you guys do. You don’t do this with President Obama. In fact, with President Obama, you went out and defended him from someone he sat in a church for 20 years and defended him with “Oh, he can’t possibly believe what he listened to for 20 years.” This is a double standard, it’s what you’re pulling off, and I’m gonna call you on it.

He was spot on and good for him for calling him on it.

  • 1 vote
#1.29 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:17 PM EST
skeptic-227981

"This is just crap."

Reminds me of the pretty standard sentiment expressed by anyone who doesn't have a decent argument, fact, or the moral ground to stand on.

That statement brings to my mind the picture of some recalcitrant child stomping out of the room when they get caught doing something they shouldn't.

  • 11 votes
#1.30 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:17 PM EST
tcaddle

82, well said. I think one thing to consider is whether Friess speaks for Ricky or Ricky is bought an paid to speak for Friess and the rest of the religious nuts. I believe it is about time churches were taxed just like any other business.

  • 7 votes
#1.31 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:17 PM EST
Widewillie

There is a difference between a joke and a policy.

There should be a difference...but, Mr. Santorum and Mr. Friess have proven that's not always the case.

And, clearly not everyone is "intelligent enough to appreciate the difference" between what should happen...and what occurred in this case.

Predictably, those who hold a partisan stance opposed to a Republican will try to equate this joke with the policies of a Reverend Wright or Bill Ayers or anyone else associated with the president.

If you're saying that Rick Santorum's attempt to equate this issue w/ the media's handling of the Rev. Wright issue....is "predictably partisan stance" which works against Republicans...I'd agree.

And, if that's NOT what you're saying...I think "predictably" of "those who hold a partisan stance"...is crystal clear to anyone paying attention.

  • 4 votes
#1.32 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:35 PM EST
newbroom

I sense that Santorum has a self righteous ego. He has said that he will disavow court decisions. He advocates extremist ideals .

  • 9 votes
#1.33 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:43 PM EST
Ditto

This whole thing overlooks an interesting new development in the world of the uber rich. Whereas once billionaires fed their egos by owning a sports team, it seems that now every billionaire wanting to increase his prestige must now own a presidential candidate.

  • 9 votes
#1.34 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:53 PM EST
redsfan

it seems that now every billionaire wanting to increase his prestige must now own a presidential candidate.

Ha! Good point...pretty soon we'll be seeing sponsor stickers on the candidates like we see on cars in NASCAR.

  • 8 votes
#1.35 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:52 PM EST
Steve Watts

He was spot on and good for him for calling him on it.

By all means, Rachel, find us a cited quote of Charlie Rose defending Obama against association with Reverend Wright.

  • 9 votes
#1.36 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:54 PM EST
feliznavidad

Dick Santorum has obviously been studying at the Palin School of Media Relations -- get a question? Attack.

  • 9 votes
#1.37 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:09 PM EST
Monkey99

If little Ricky is having so much trouble answering questions like this, why is he even running for president????

Does he not think he'll have to answer tougher ones than the idiotic statement he's being questioned on now?

This punk will NEVER be elected.

  • 6 votes
#1.38 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:10 PM EST
Ditto

What's truly ironic is that Santorum, being an avowed and devout political\religious figure, could in fact be a gift from God for the Democrats in 2012.

  • 8 votes
#1.39 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:25 PM EST
Tink-2285193

What I wonder is how his Sugar Daddy Friess feels about being considered just 'some supporter' after all the money he has paid into the pot to buy Santorum's campaign. How he feels about being considered by Santorum as nothing more than a big joke that the world should laugh at. Santorum is a product of what his supporters want him to be, and I for one am glad that he has had this big surge in popularity, as the people now will see for themselves what kind of nut job this guy really is. Every time he opens his mouth now he peels back a layer of himself that exposes more and more of his ugly inner self.

The man truly is a psycho, and the more he surges and feels more sure of his chances of winning the nomination, the bolder he becomes and reveals himself, the more that becomes clear. At least to me.

But, like all the rest of the 'also ran's his days as flavor of the month are numbered, and it is just a matter of time before his make believe halo also dries up and blows away. And like the others, it will be of his own doing.

  • 6 votes
#1.40 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:32 PM EST
Elistra

One wonders how Santorum would feel about the vastly increased burdens that would result on social assistance programs if there was no birth control? Not just in terms of unmarried women who are sexually active, but even from married couples? Celibacy isn't exactly a recipe for marital bliss, as every married person is no doubt aware. For most couples, a lack of birth control would mean a choice between a celibate marriage or a houseful of children they lack the means to support on their own.

Sorry Santorum, you have to support birth control OR an expanded welfare system. You can't have it both ways.

  • 5 votes
#1.41 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:58 PM EST
spg64-1292127

Santorum himself has publicly stated he would CRIMINALIZE all sex out side of "legitimate" Marriage!

He has Publicly spewed his own THEOCRATIC BS about outlawing contraceptives.

He has Publicly stated that RAPE and INCEST VICTIMS should be FORCED by the GOVERNMENT to carry the spawn of those Violent acts to full term.

Yet when he is asked about his Foremost Campaign financier making bad jokes about the matter he whines like a 5 year old!

What a spineless man child!

  • 9 votes
#1.42 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:30 PM EST
snb1930

For Republicans, any questions or comments about their actions or their associates is considered an attack, while anytime they make an accusation, innuendos, derogatory rhetoric, etc. about a Democrat it's free speech and "the American People's right to the truth".

  • 8 votes
#1.43 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:46 PM EST
canary-in-the-coal-mine

well - from a practical standpoint he might be more difficult to defeat than Willard.

rick can get the teavangelical vote - while they will categorically NOT support a mormon, they WILL support a catholic (even this DOLT with the IQ of a CRETIN)

Look for massive DEM crossover to vote AGAINST Willard in Michigan (relatively open primary and there is NO opposition on the DEM side)

  • 5 votes
#1.44 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:07 PM EST
Elistra

What a spineless man child!

Welcome to the "Angry White Male" demographic of our society. Lol. "Whaaaa, everyone should do what I tell them to, whaaaa! Me! Me! I WANT! No one else has feelings or needs, just me me me! Who do they think they are, those selfish poopieheads! I don't wanna share, whaaaaaa!!"

I think it's time to put widdle baby boys like Santorum down for an afternoon nap myself. Judging from the whining and the tantrums, it is long overdue.

  • 6 votes
#1.45 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:36 PM EST
cjcold

Not very presidential getting testy with Charlie Rose. I think that I'll stick with the presidential one we already have.

  • 10 votes
#1.46 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:15 AM EST
Cornhusker4Palin

Rick was right to say what he did. The msm is biased and openly pro Obama. He put the media as a whole in its place. Bravo and a standing ovation to you Senator.

  • 1 vote
#1.47 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:41 AM EST
CPOSharkey

Oh god I want to puke!

C4P - has Obama ever done anything right in your opinion, just one thing?

  • 10 votes
#1.48 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:45 AM EST
CODE PINK

Mediate?????? Really????? Nugh Said!

  • 1 vote
#1.49 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:53 AM EST
Non_Neocon

We don't want to see all the hard fought progress that this country has made suddenly get turned back by a century or two. That is surely what would happen if a relic from the dark ages like Santorum were elected, who seems to think it's his job to enforce his brand of morality on the rest of the country.

  • 3 votes
#1.50 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:21 AM EST
WaltUU

Reminds me of the pretty standard sentiment expressed by anyone who doesn't have a decent argument, fact, or the moral ground to stand on.

Just imagine how Newsviners, of any stripe, would respond to someone who's reply to a challenge to something they put forward in a thread with "This is just crap". Newsviners would rip such a poster to shreds, exposing the vacuous nature of such comments in the context of a discussion of issues.

Santorum can't even raise himself up to the threshold of a contributing Newsviner - how can he be President?

  • 7 votes
#1.51 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:38 AM EST
Zoolopolis

If someone poked finger at Rick, he would've bitten if off!

  • 3 votes
#1.52 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:31 AM EST
Adler315

WaltUU:

Santorum can't even raise himself up to the threshold of a contributing Newsviner - how can he be President?

He won't be, Walt. As a number of fellow Pennsylvanians on Newsvine have already gleefully mentioned, we here in the Quaker State sent Santorum packing in 2006 when Bob Casey defeated him by the largest margin of victory in history against an incumbent GOP senator. There's a good reason for that: Santorum is not merely reckless, infantile, and personally off-putting, he's not just an unabashed elitist and a thoroughgoing, hopelessly out-of-touch extremist. He's a genuine bozo. Whenever I picture him in a series of televised presidential debates with Barack Obama, I see Santorum's head on a gleaming silver platter, garnished with parsley and grapes, with a glazed apple jammed in his mouth. Oh happy day.

  • 2 votes
#1.53 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:56 AM EST
WaltUU

Yeah, I have a friend in State College who has said pretty-much the same thing. It sure looks like Romney's a shoe-in for the nomination. Though, having said that, and given how many delegates that Paul and Santorum have gotten already, the chances for a brokered convention are higher than any time in the last sixty years. That has a lot of people using the word "Bush" again...

  • 2 votes
#1.54 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:01 AM EST
Cornhusker4Palin

Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush! Bush-Christie 2012!

  • 1 vote
#1.55 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:34 PM EST
CPOSharkey

C4P - why do you refuse to answer a very simple question? I'll make it easier for you, you don't even have to say what he did right, just yes or no, has Obama ever done anything you agree with?

You afraid if you answer in public it will destroy your image of mindless schilling for the right and no one will respect you anymore? Don't worry no one does anyway but if you don't want to answer in public just send me a note, I won't tell anyone, promise!

  • 5 votes
#1.56 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:37 PM EST
petridishofideas

CPO.....I have been asking corney what the gNOP have ever done for the good of all Americans for MONTHS but have yet to get any answer. Either the gNOp are incapable of doing their own research ort my favorite....there is NOTHING to find. But good luck. Corney won't answer. JMHO!

  • 5 votes
#1.57 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:45 PM EST
Monkey99

Gotta second that, petridish.

C4P doesn't want or need (apparently) an opposing opinion, nor one that requires them to make any semblance of reflection. Reflection is anathema to the right-wing. It means they actually have to examine their beliefs, which we all know are flawed.

  • 4 votes
#1.58 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:49 PM EST
Glo25420

Foster Friesses comment shows exactly how "religious" these misogynist pricks actually are.

  • 4 votes
#1.59 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:31 PM EST
Cornhusker4Palin

C4P - why do you refuse to answer a very simple question? I'll make it easier for you, you don't even have to say what he did right, just yes or no, has Obama ever done anything you agree with?

Yes. He extended the Bush tax cuts for 2 years for all Americans. Something I expect him to do again this year, whether he'd prefer doing so or not. It will likely be attached to something he wants bad enough to give us that in exchange.

  • 1 vote
#1.60 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:00 AM EST
CPOSharkey

C4P - I have to say I have a slight new found respect (almost) for you. You finally answered a question, well at least your Fox News drone did, but that's a start.

Here's another question for you: C4P, are you in the top 1%? Yes or No?

  • 5 votes
#1.61 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:47 PM EST
cjcold

This president has done the best he could for We the People. A record number of fillibusters by the far right wing in the Senate made sure that politics trumpted the health of people and the environment. Mr. president. Keep it up, I have your back.

  • 3 votes
#1.62 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:25 PM EST
Cornhusker4Palin

Here's another question for you: C4P, are you in the top 1%? Yes or No?

No, not even close. I am just outside the top 40% near the top of the middle quintile. I am an underwater homeowner wit somewhat dangerous debt levels and with all my remaining economic eggs in the stocks/mutual and exchange traded fund basket, ssave a rainy day fund for potential emergencies. So, to me, cap gains and dividends tax rates are important as are the rest o the Bush tax cuts. For me, well being of companies big and small, foreign and domestc be it for their stocks or bonds is my well being. I don't want the rich selling off their stocks at the end of the year to lock in todays rates because such a sell off would drive down the value of my holdings and they will continue selling some even at a loss to them as they will then take their losses and apply them against their ordinary income taxes over thee years to offset the increases in those rates as well. The rich in protecting themselves from the ows demanded tax hikes will hurt the bulk of the middle class that is the investor class. We will bear the brunt of what was targeted at the rich as usual.

  • 3 votes
#1.63 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:39 AM EST
CPOSharkey

C4P - I am in the same economic boat as you and yet you steadfastly defend the republican approach while I don't. I don't buy the bull they are trying to feed me about what the rich will do if we raised taxes on them, it is nothing more than a scare tactic aimed quite frankly directly at people like you. Bush lowered taxes on all and the rich especially benefited from it, did you? No, our lot has gotten worse while the rich have just gotten richer by playing with YOUR money that you have invested. Where are all the jobs those lower tax rates were supposed to create?

C4P - I do appreciate that you did respond and I do appreciate your concerns but I truly believe that you are cheering for the wrong side in this debate and wish you would take another hard look at what the republicans have been proposing to do and how you think that will really help you.

Peace!

  • 6 votes
#1.64 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:57 AM EST
ambivalent

Charlie Rose is by far the sexiest man alive. He oozes with his brilliance, his confidence, his politeness, his knowledege of his subject each and every interview.

  • 3 votes
#1.65 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:55 AM EST
Cornhusker4Palin

Bush lowered taxes on all and the rich especially benefited from it, did you? No, our lot has gotten worse while the rich have just gotten richer by playing with YOUR money that you have invested. Where are all the jobs those lower tax rates were supposed to create?

I benefitted from the Bush tax cuts alot. I got a reduction to 10% the rate on about 40% of my taxable income. My cap gains and dividends rate is 5%. The marriage tax penalty leveled, the per child tax credit doubleed, increased 401k and IRA limits, easier access to the earned income ta credit, were all part of the Bushh rate cuts of 2001 annd 2003. If the Bush rates were repealled for all, my tax bill would go up by 40%. As to the jobs, they were created between the end of 2002 and end oof 20007. Think how much worse we'd be ooff now if those jobs werent created then. Have you forgotten the longest period of consecutiive months of jobs growth happened just prior to the great recession? Or that democrats controlled both houses of congress in the lead up to the recession? We know that the tax cuts created a lot of jobs. Now that we have a downturn, we don't have a rationale to raise taxes.

C4P - I do appreciate that you did respond and I do appreciate your concerns but I truly believe that you are cheering for the wrong side in this debate and wish you would take another hard look at what the republicans have been proposing to do and how you think that will really help you.

Thanks, and as do I. A conversation on the issues is a goood thing. I like what the Republicans are proposing on economics, taxes, and budget issues. As o sides, I see free enterpriise and capitalism as the goood guys and the federal government's executive branch as the villains.

  • 2 votes
#1.66 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:26 PM EST
Non_Neocon

If only you could get your party to divorce itself from the religious zealots it has wedded itself to over the last 30 years. It would still suck on economic issues but at least I would be able to rest easier knowing conservatives weren't trying to turn this into a theocracy.

  • 4 votes
#1.67 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:42 PM EST
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Greenwood10

SANTORUM: Hold on, Charlie. When you quote a bad joke from a supporter of mine that somehow I'm responsible for, that's "gotcha."

SANTORUM: So now I’m gonna have to respond to when every supporter says something. Look, this is what you guys do. You don’t do this with President Obama. In fact, with President Obama, you went out and defended him from someone he sat in a church for 20 years and defended him with “Oh, he can’t possibly believe what he listened to for 20 years.” This is a double standard, it’s what you’re pulling off, and I’m gonna call you on it.

Sorry Charlie you've been called out. It would probably be better if you thought a little before asking silly questions. Are these liberals for real?

  • 4 votes
#2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:34 AM EST
Sassy79

Hardly.

  • 9 votes
#2.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:36 AM EST
Greenwood10

I don't think so either.

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:41 AM EST
Baron von SteubenExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

That was a good point on Santorum's part.

  • 5 votes
#2.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:08 PM EST
redsfan

Every single person running for national office gets questioned about things their "supporters" say...especially when they say something so offensive and blatantly misogynistic that many, many people are concerned about the candidate's attitude toward that same issue.

  • 39 votes
#2.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:43 PM EST
petridishofideas

POOOR frothy. Can't handle the heat. TYPICAL of the dumbasses the gNOp like to parade around as their candidates! COWARD!

  • 26 votes
#2.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:50 PM EST
David Boddie

I guess they forgot about the whole, "is Obama a racist" rant using Jeremiah Wright's speech to try to sink candidate Obama... Then the "is Obama a terrorist", using Ayers as a "guilt by association" example. No, no. There is a double standard (sarcasm).

  • 38 votes
#2.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:57 PM EST
james ca.

Except the guy is not just a supporter, he is a primary money provider for the Santorum blame game presidential campaign.

We have every right to ask if he holds the same beliefs as his primary monetary supporters, and if not then why is he willing to take their money? Very valid questions and in fact one is stupid not to ask them. Of course if Santorum doesn't want to be the Prez of the USA he doesn't have to answer them!?! It is Santorums' choice to run after all - if the heat in the kitchen is too much for him he is more than welcome to leave to find a more comfortable place to hang out..

Also, the right tried every conceivable gotcha question/situation of Obama conceivable under the sun and then some! It reveals to the people some of the inner workings of the people involved as it did with Obama. Only there were so many more people who liked what they saw in Obama that they far outweighed the number of people who favored McCain and Half term Gov Palin.

  • 27 votes
#2.7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:56 PM EST
WaltUU

Except the guy is not just a supporter, he is a primary money provider for the Santorum blame game presidential campaign.

And this explains why Santorum refuses to repudiate him. Obama had no problem condemning Rev. Wright's offensive statements, without regard to how much support that would lose him among UCC members, but Santorum doesn't have that kind of integrity.

  • 24 votes
#2.8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:00 PM EST
Andrew-1162039

Anybody who has ever watched a Charlie Rose interview would know he wasn't going to grill Santorum on it. He rarely interrupts the people he's interviewing and will happily let them indulge in long tangents. He is, frankly, an interviewees dream. Santorum could have simply stated whether he agreed or disagreed with the statement and then gone onto talk about whatever he wanted. Not being able to handle a softball Charlie Rose interview is even more embarrassing than the bad joke by his supporter.

  • 21 votes
#2.9 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:11 PM EST
WaltUU

I wonder to what extent Rose's reputation as a polite man fostered Santorum's hostility, given that he had a reasonable expectation that he'd get away with it, instead of being taken to task for it.

  • 16 votes
#2.10 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:15 PM EST
Rene ODeay

It's a bad joke. but everybody seems intent on beating Santorum over the head with it. witness here.

  • 5 votes
#2.11 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:24 PM EST
WaltUU

The intention to "beat Santorum over the head" is not with the bad joke but with his refusal to earnestly repudiate it and the man who exhibited such an offensive perspective by telling it.

Part of this discussion almost seems like Santorum supporters are saying that the joke would have been okay in other circumstances. That's as offensive as Santorum not repudiating the joke in the circumstances it was presented.

But heck; let me keep an open mind: Why would anyone tell that joke in any circumstance? Please present your moral defense for a person who would tell that joke. You can leave out excuses like he's stupid, because his position makes it clear he doesn't lack mental faculties.

  • 19 votes
#2.12 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:28 PM EST
Michelle-340891

Rene: I find "bad jokes" at women's healthcare issues a LOT less than funny. And more than a little insensitive. And to even IMPLY that a woman should just keep her legs closed is misogynistic, at best.

The GOTP had a field day where Wright and Ayers were concerned, finding Obama guilty by association for YEARS. Gotta hate it when their own tactics come home to roost on their own doorsteps, don't you? It's called a DOUBLE STANDARD, and it's hypocritical. If the GOTP are such babies that they can't handle playing by the very rules they came up with, then perhaps they shouldn't play by those rules in the first place.

  • 18 votes
#2.13 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:33 PM EST
Widewillie

bad joke. but everybody seems intent on beating Santorum over the head with it.

Nonsense.

He's not being "beaten over the head" for a bad joke...he's being taken to task for feigning victimization and distorting history (AKA... lying)...when asked about the "bad joke".

When Greta Van Susteren at Fox/GOP News asked a similar question yesterday...he just answered it.

But when Charlie Rose over at that awful "liberal media" outlet know as CBS asks...he responds w/ faux outrage...phony victimization...and some laughable BS about the "gotcha" media...while desperately avoiding an actual answer.

Mr. Santorum is the one perpetuating the blatant "double standard".

  • 22 votes
#2.14 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:49 PM EST
MarkD-555

Difference is Obama spoke out against what the crazy preacher said.

Santorum supports the banning of birth control, so he won't speak out against it, he will only speak out against bringing the subject up.

Santorum is never going to say "Oh he shouldn't have said that, many women need birth control pills for health reasons, and it's a persons right to have access to it, I support access to birth control"

He thinks it's evil. He gets pissed and refuses to speak against anyone who is against it.

  • 22 votes
#2.15 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:58 PM EST
Coral Atlas

Honesty is the best policy. ;-)

There was once honest Abe and now we have honest Barack.

As for Santorum - he says he did not chop down the cherry tree ..... do you believe him? ;-)

  • 11 votes
#2.16 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:52 PM EST
real michaud

speaking of offensive....the whole Fascist...ooops...republican party is offensive, and their candidates are repulsive and ugly....like Roy Blunt....how can anyone vote for that fatso

  • 11 votes
#2.17 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:06 PM EST
canary-in-the-coal-mine

santorum wouldn't know a cherry if he had his nose in it.

  • 5 votes
#2.18 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:10 PM EST
cjcold

I've really been enjoying the GOTP feeding frenzy. They're each their own worst enemy. How anybody could ever think that any of this season's crop was qualified to be president is just baffling. The fact that Santorum has made it this far is just scary.

  • 3 votes
#2.19 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:35 AM EST
Territan

MarkD-555: Difference is Obama spoke out against what the crazy preacher said.

Interestingly, this action on Barack Obama's part worried me more than any comment Rev. Wright made.

Go back and review Rev. Wright's comments, in context, and you'll see that it was actually a very Christian thing to say. And I mean actual Christian, not that faux-Christan veneer that many people wrap themselves up in these days to look the part.

  • 2 votes
#2.20 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:52 AM EST
redsfan

Go back and review Rev. Wright's comments, in context, and you'll see that it was actually a very Christian thing to say. And I mean actual Christian, not that faux-Christan veneer that many people wrap themselves up in these days to look the part.

I agree, Territan. I understand why Obama felt the need to disavow the statement...but it was taken out of context and was certainly something I could agree with...IN CONTEXT.

  • 5 votes
#2.21 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:57 AM EST
Greenwood10Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

How anybody could ever think that any of this season's crop was qualified to be president is just baffling.

Yeah, Obama is the number one in the baffling dept.

  • 3 votes
#2.22 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:23 PM EST
mikebankExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Yeah, Obama is the number one in the baffling dept.

Marked as no value.

  • 8 votes
#2.23 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:44 PM EST
Greenwood10Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Marked as no value.

Marked as no value.

  • 2 votes
#2.24 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:10 PM EST
mikebankExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Marked as no value.

Marked as no value. ;)

  • 2 votes
#2.25 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:37 PM EST
Reply
David-933354

He'd better get used to it. As president, he would be responsible for everything that happens and is said by anyone in his administration. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

  • 35 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:17 PM EST
wuzateecher

So if Charlie Rose sets him off, how is he ready to be President? There are a lot of real meanies out there Ricky-poo. They won't soft pedal their discussions with you or listen politely while you BS an answer.

  • 23 votes
#3.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:22 PM EST
Buckeye Voter

A President gets blamed for things not under the control of his administration. For example, Republicans blame the deficit on the President - rather than Congress, who actually writes and passes all appropriation bills.

  • 15 votes
#3.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:45 PM EST
real michaud

yeah buckeye, like the republicans blaming the deficits on the "democrat" party in the 80's "who controlled the government for the last 50 years" when they know that the Republican potty had control of the senate from 1981 (the year that B actor Reagan was elected) till 1987.

and of course they give that B actor the credit for the 90's economic expansion the longest on record with lower deficits, but friggin conveniently forget the 1991 recession, then turn right around and blame Clinton for Bush Jr's deficits because of the mild recession of 2001, which was actually under Jr's watch...then they blame Obama for the recession that Bush caused, and if that doesn't work they blame the Democrats whether they are in control of Congress or not. No matter what Reagan, Bush, Bush Jr, and the republicans are not to blame for anything that has gone wrong, but if there is an economic expansion of some kind no matter how many years after the B movie actor presidency he gets the credit.

What a joke of a party...if you vote republican this year you are simply retarded and ignorant.

  • 7 votes
#3.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:16 PM EST
Buckeye Voter

Both parties criticize the other, sometimes with bogus arguments.

Take, for example, the tsking over the President's budget. The POTUS submitting his budget to Congress is always a sham. Even if the House and Senate were controlled by Democrats, they would still ignore the President's budget and craft the appropriations bills as they see fit.

The Legislature does not like the Executive getting into their business.

It's just stupid for Republicans to blame the President for submitting a Happy-Happy budget in an election year. Either they think most people don't know how our government works (probably true) and/or they, themselves, don't understand how they work (likely true for a lot of freshman Representatives...some really are stupid and ill-prepared for their job).

  • 6 votes
#3.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:56 PM EST
Reply
echo82

Republicans love to use the "gotcha" scenario when faced with questions they are unable or unwilling to address. It's not always supposed to be so easy. That's the point.

  • 27 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:18 PM EST
douglasq

Republicans love to use the "gotcha" scenario when faced with questions they are unable or unwilling to address. It's not always supposed to be so easy. That's the point.

Yes, like the mother of all "gotcha" questions..."What do you read?"

  • 30 votes
#4.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:42 PM EST
echo82

I know! Bet she still can't answer that one!

  • 25 votes
#4.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:43 PM EST
redsfan

Indeed...if she had answered honestly, she would have said "I don't read anything...my advisers tell me what hateful and false thing to say each day and that's what I say".

  • 21 votes
#4.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:44 PM EST
David Boddie

I'm amazed they called it a "gotcha question"... it's not like he was blindsiding Santorum on the street. The guy was in an interview chair, with a mic and a camera. He should expect some hard questions.

  • 19 votes
#4.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:59 PM EST
douglasq

I know! Bet she still can't answer that one!

"I read Facebook, Katie. Why do you ask?"

  • 20 votes
#4.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:12 PM EST
Coral Atlas

"SHE" reads half the newspapers, in half the time because she only served half a term and is half witted.

;-)

  • 13 votes
#4.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:55 PM EST
feliznavidad

Yes -- Coral Atlas -- but your comment is the WHOLE truth -- and nothing but!

  • 5 votes
#4.7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:10 PM EST
Coral Atlas

you betcha! ;-)

  • 3 votes
#4.8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:09 PM EST
austinrick

Palin was the best recent example till now.

  • 4 votes
#4.9 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:47 AM EST
Reply
luckydog

SANTORUM: So now I’m gonna have to respond to when every supporter says something. Look, this is what you guys do. You don’t do this with President Obama. In fact, with President Obama, you went out and defended him from someone he sat in a church for 20 years and defended him with “Oh, he can’t possibly believe what he listened to for 20 years.” This is a double standard, it’s what you’re pulling off, and I’m gonna call you on it.

Yeah, we all know that Obama has never been asked a stupid or embarrassing question. Except for the ones about his birth certificate or if he is a Muslim for instance (At a town hall meeting in Florida, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum failed to repudiate a woman who claimed that President Obama was a Muslim and not legally the President of the United States). Just the media picking on poor Rick.

  • 30 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:31 PM EST
redsfan

Just the media picking on poor Rick.

Sarah Palin is going to get really mad that Santorum is stealing her number one false talking point.

  • 29 votes
#5.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:45 PM EST
real michaud

our meme should be "rich the whiner" or "just quit whining rick"....and just keep saying it over and over and over again.

  • 8 votes
#5.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:20 PM EST
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Widewillie

You don’t do this with President Obama.

Pure partisan bull@!$%#.

The connection between Rev. Wright and BO was investigated, covered, continuously discussed by the media for weeks. And not just by Fox or WND.

ABC, the NYT...and that bastion of the "liberal"..."left-wing"..."lame-stream media", Bill Moyers all covered the story in-depth!

In fact, it reached a point where Obama finally held a lengthy press conference to address the issue...so it would STOP being the focus of so many interviews.

This has nothing to do w/ "a double standard".

Rick Santorum is playing politics. He knows that claiming to be a "victim" of unfair treatment by the media plays FAR better w/ his mono-syllabic, mouth-breathing constituency than denouncing what Friess said.

  • 24 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:49 PM EST
redsfan

He knows that claiming to be a "victim" of unfair treatment by the media plays FAR better w/ his mono-syllabic, mouth-breathing constituency than denouncing what Friess said.

Yup...he's taking a page out of the Sarah Palin playbook..."I can't defend what was said, so I'll just blame the media for actually questioning what was said...How dare you quote me (or my supporters) verbatim?"

  • 17 votes
#6.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:00 PM EST
Widewillie

Exactly. His response is positively Palinesque. Then again...his supporters probably like and appreciate that fact??

  • 16 votes
#6.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:17 PM EST
redsfan

True, Wildewillie...the Palin dupes had to go somewhere, so maybe they are now supporting Santorum.

  • 17 votes
#6.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:22 PM EST
Severed Head in a Jar

He will do anything to avoid disavowing what Friess said because some of his supporters think like Friess does, and, let's face it, Rick needs all the supporters he can get.

So he won't agree or disagree; he just deflects. He hopes to get out of this without taking a stand that might offend anyone in his camp.

  • 13 votes
#6.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:36 PM EST
Reply
demo scout

Charlie Rose has interviewed in depth just about every important person on the planet, and this moron thinks that he needed to ask a "gotcha" question, whatever that is supposed to be. It seems to me that Republicans define a "gotcha" question as any question that embarrasses them. He could have just answered by saying he doesn't know why Freiss made that stupid sexist remark and that it does not reflect on his own thinking.

If he is that thin skinned he will not make a good president.

  • 19 votes
Reply#7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:08 PM EST
redsfan

He could have just answered by saying he doesn't know why Freiss made that stupid sexist remark and that it does not reflect on his own thinking.

Ah...but that would be entirely too rational for Santorum...and it would probably lose him millions of dollars in Friess's money.

  • 14 votes
#7.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:23 PM EST
Reply
lib50

I though Rick was channeling Newt and his propensity to turn on the interviewer/media when he doesn't like the question.

  • 11 votes
Reply#8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:36 PM EST
ol doc gold

That is exactly what he was doing, and we can expect more of it thanks to Newt gaining rightwing brownie points for attacking the moderator during a debate. The right will proceed to compete on will create more animosity with the press at each turn.

Then guess who will be the first to complain when the press doesn't want to deal with them at all?

Here is a free clue for the republican candidates, its journalism...not marketing, there are no gotcha questions...there are questions and you can choose which ones to answer. When you chose to sit down with a journalist you should be prepared to answer questions you don't like. Attacking the reporter because you don't like the question makes you look weak and insincere.

It didn't work for Sarah Palin during the general election, why would they think it will work for them?

  • 8 votes
#8.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:29 PM EST
Angry Left-532262

Have you seen the Brewer video when she was ignoring the reporters asking about the "dead bodies" thing???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1xV7nTSqww

I like how she tries to act like she didn't hear the question but it's obvious she did.

  • 6 votes
#8.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:32 PM EST
Reply
hugh b

@!$%#, the only thing conservatives are capable of recognizing are double standards, it is their stock in trade....

With all due respect to the Polish People, but what used to be referred to as a Polish Firing Squad is now the Republican Firing Squad, standing around in a circle, locked, loaded, and finger on the trigger...

@!$%#ing hypocrites, start making decisions that help the country not corporations and stay the @!$%# out my sex life, my house, my bedroom or anywhere else you wouldn't anyone else that wasn't invited...

and while you are at it, take your @!$%#ing religious beliefs and shove them up your ass

  • 9 votes
Reply#9 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:44 PM EST
Constitutional Patriot

I sense some anger on your part. Or, maybe frustration. Yup, that's the Santorum effect, caused by incessant pandering and foolish posturing. Those are two of the reasons we gave him the boot here, out of Pennsylvania. Even for this semi-conservative state, he's just too far to the right.......

  • 11 votes
#9.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:58 PM EST
bphilly76

very nice said #9 an #9.1

  • 1 vote
#9.2 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:55 AM EST
Reply
Door King

I wonder how many times he's mentioned Obama's associations? Weeeeeeeep, weeeeeep, weeeeeeep.

  • 11 votes
Reply#10 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:47 PM EST
Better Careful

Charlie Rose is a responsible and fair television journalist. He's as good as there is. He's a gentleman and a good host, as well, true to his Southern roots, in the best sense of the words. He is both solicitous and kind; his abilities to listen and give empathy are unequaled in the field.

Santorum got all huffy as a deflection and avoidance to providing a response to Rose. Santorum is being careful not to piss-off a major Mr. Moneybags, or come out for the record as a male pig. Neither option is a good one for the career politician, and he knows it.

My mother used to say, "Dignity is the last refuge of the scoundrel." In this case substitute "self-righteousness" for "dignity."

  • 11 votes
Reply#11 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:05 PM EST
lisaed

Here Santroum draws a page right out of the Gingrich playbook......when made uncomfortable in any way just blame the media.

  • 12 votes
Reply#12 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:13 PM EST
MyLifeInText

He is right about the Obama Part with That idiot racist Reverend but Santorum should of just answered that it was an unfortunate use of a joke at the wrong time. I got the joke when I heard it. Just wrong time for it.

    Reply#13 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:14 PM EST
    Michelle-340891

    I fail to find it funny to tell women to just keep their legs closed when it comes to their reproductive health. We're talking about our LIVES here. Women are not chattel, and acting like they are and calling it a "joke" is neither funny nor politically a good idea. They disrespect women at their own peril.

    Santorum has LOST the woman vote (not that he would ever have gotten it considering many of his views). McCain lost the woman vote to Obama by 15%. Looks like the GOTP is trying to double or triple that this time around.

    • 18 votes
    #13.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:42 PM EST
    Rational Brent

    Michelle, if you're that easily offended, then tell it to the person who created the joke in the 1950s.

    Friess has given millions to non-political charities. Cut the guy some slack.

    (I'm not voting for Rick either)

    • 1 vote
    #13.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:29 PM EST
    Michelle-340891

    Rational Bent: I don't care how much money he's given to "charity." He's a misogynist who's backing ANOTHER misogynist for President.

    And don't tell me what I should or shouldn't find offensive. I'm sick to death of men telling women that we should just suck it up when they want to insult us. If the GOTP can play the victim and be "offended" when anyone even criticizes Christianity, then they can stuff their indignation at my rightful outrage at them belittling women and women's issues.

    • 14 votes
    #13.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:34 PM EST
    MyLifeInText

    And women Dont Stereo Type Males? Give me a break. Ive been lucky enough to be in a room of 10 or so women who were all just friends and I can tell you some of the @!$%# women say is 20 million times worse then in a football locker room so dont sit there an play all godly innocent. Its a joke. Its been a Joke. It will be a Joke 1000000000 years from now. When jokes become PC they are not funny..... Now did he tell it at the wrong moment. Def a yes. But grow a spine.

    And Im for BC and I am Also Pro-Choice but dont play like the poor women BS when it come to jokes like this.

    • 1 vote
    #13.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:57 PM EST
    Rational Brent

    Michelle, he's a mysogynist? LOL

    Lighten up-it's Friday!

    MLIT, I think Michelle's interested in more than women's rights here. Wink wink.......

    Have a good one.

    • 1 vote
    #13.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:07 PM EST
    redsfan

    Friess is not only a misogynist...he's a crazy bigot...and very, very rich...

    Who Is Foster Friess? Seven Facts You Need To Know

    • 15 votes
    #13.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:49 PM EST
    Michelle-340891

    Rational: What's a "mysogynist"?

    Looks like you need to invest in spell check. And maybe a dictionary and an education.

    • 5 votes
    #13.7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:24 PM EST
    ryoushi12

    I guess brent doesn't have too many women in his life, or he'd know he just committed as big a faux pas as friess, tut tutting the "little" woman and brushing off her complaint as just so much hormones.

    If you are on our side brent, PLEASE join the other the side.

    • 3 votes
    #13.8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:23 PM EST
    YELLOW DOG D.

    Rational Brent, in might want to lay in a good supply of hand lotion, if your wife hears you.

    • 2 votes
    #13.9 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:28 PM EST
    Michelle-340891

    MyLife: I don't doubt that women can be as stereotypical as men. However, it's a LOT different when it's someone saying it on NATIONAL television, especially when it's a major politician or someone who has a major politicians ear (or in this case, his ear, his eyes, his ass, his VOTE, etc.).

    Rational Bent:

    MLIT, I think Michelle's interested in more than women's rights here. Wink wink.......

    Thanks for proving my point about the way men belittle and marganalize women....

    • 4 votes
    #13.10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:45 PM EST
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    ksilvers59

    Sanatorium needs to get over it,. He will still have the wonderful opportunity to answer questions about what his supporters say and do.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#14 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:17 PM EST
    Steve Watts

    You don’t do this with President Obama. In fact, with President Obama, you went out and defended him from someone he sat in a church for 20 years and defended him with “Oh, he can’t possibly believe what he listened to for 20 years.” This is a double standard, it’s what you’re pulling off, and I’m gonna call you on it.

    Good point, Rick Santorum. It's absolutely a double-standard that the news media never asked Obama what he thought of Reverend Wright's comments. Not once did the media press Obama to share his personal opinions on the controversial statements from one of his supporters.

    Except this time. And this time. And this time.

    The frustrating thing is that Santorum's supporters, the GOP true-believers, are going to nod their head and accept the revisionist history as fact. They'll get fired up by the double standard, and accept it as yet more proof of the biased liberal media. Never mind that it's completely and utterly false. There's outrage to be had.

    • 11 votes
    Reply#15 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:19 PM EST
    DSKI-1290107

    [It's absolutely a double-standard that the news media never asked Obama what he thought of Reverend Wright's comments]

    where were you? it got to the point where Obama has to talk about that more than anything else. i remember Hannity from Fox clearly saying,"HE'S NOT GOING TO GET OVER THIS ONE", as if they finally fonud something to keep Obama from winning. matta fact, Fox kept that story going for at least two more weeks after all the other networks stopped talking about it. again, where were you?

    [Not once did the media press Obama to share his personal opinions on the controversial statements from one of his supporters.]

    why should they? the Rev thing was suppose to be the ticket to denounce Obama. when that did not work, they knew words out of the mouth of someone else was not going to work. but it might work on ole Santorum. dudes like these get all pink when faced with an obstacle. keep asking him about it, and soon he's going to explode. the REAL Santorum will come out.

    • 7 votes
    #15.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:42 PM EST
    lilgremlin

    keep asking him about it, and soon he's going to explode. the REAL Santorum will come out.

    Eeeewwww!

    • 4 votes
    #15.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:38 PM EST
    Steve Watts

    I didn't even catch that until you pointed it out, gremlin.

    Yeah. Gross.

    • 3 votes
    #15.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:43 PM EST
    DSKI-1290107

    lol Gremlin - i tried to get some Santorum out this morning but the Mrs. had a headache. :)

      #15.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:02 PM EST
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      mike the vet

      The entire right side crew can't answer a question with a Websters,Bible or TelePrompTer.At least one that makes sense.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#16 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:20 PM EST
      TheyreAllCrooks

      "In fact, with President Obama, you went out and defended him from someone he sat in a church for 20 years and defended him with "Oh, he can't possibly believe what he listened to for 20 years." This is a double standard, it's what you're pulling off, and I'm gonna call you on it."

      How would you possibly know what he listened to for 20 years if you weren't there? There's one clip that says "god damn America"...and somehow we're supposed to believe that's what Rev Wright said every Sunday? Well he didn't.

      But Obama was asked about it time and time again...and he never ducked the question.

      Foster Freiss is running the SuperPAC that's supporting you Lil Ricky, splashing MILLIONS onto TV in your behalf...Wright never did any such thing...so yes you will be asked about what they say!

      • 11 votes
      Reply#17 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:34 PM EST
      DSKI-1290107

      just what kind of supporters does the GOP members think they have?

      • 7 votes
      Reply#18 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:35 PM EST
      petridishofideas

      @!$%#ing DUMB Ones!

      • 2 votes
      #18.1 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:41 PM EST
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      ScienceGuy-356641

      Remember, Santorum, Gingrich, Bachmann, Palin, other tea party brown-nosers have made it clear that they want journalists and interviewers to only ask the questions that they want them to ask, i.e., the interviewers should behave as though they are members of the interviewee's PR team.

      • 13 votes
      Reply#19 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:47 PM EST
      peapod

      You don't do this with President Obama. In fact, with President Obama, you went out and defended him from someone he sat in a church for 20 years and defended him with "Oh, he can't possibly believe what he listened to for 20 years."

      Pretty good point though.

        Reply#20 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:49 PM EST
        Bill K. NY

        Rick Santorum can't possibly believe everything his supporters say. It's not like he was sitting in a church every sunday for 20 years listening to the aspirin joke.

        • 1 vote
        #20.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:57 PM EST
        Widewillie

        Pretty good point though.

        Hardly...it's not even a valid point let alone a "good" one! His deflection amounts to nothing more than abject ignorance...a blatant lie...pathetic partisan manipulation....or some combination of those.

        The issue of Rev. Wright & BO was investigated, covered, continuously discussed by the media...from all ideological POV's... for more than a MONTH!

        After six (+/-) weeks ...candidate Obama held a press conference to address the issue...because Rev. Wright's comments were starting to dominate the media coverage he was receiving.

        • 10 votes
        #20.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:01 PM EST
        TheyreAllCrooks

        Rick Santorum can't possibly believe everything his supporters say. It's not like he was sitting in a church every sunday for 20 years listening to the aspirin joke.

        LOL...very true! BUT, the difference is this Freiss guy is running a SuperPAC that's spending MILLIONS trying to get Lil Ricky elected...Rev Wright for all we know may not have even voted for Obama and he certainly wasn't running a freaking SuperPAC!
        There is no double standard here! Obama was raked over the coals regarding Wright for weeks on end until he finally gave a speach about it...and Santorum lied and said that never happened - when all earth knows that it did.

        These are legitimate "aspirin bewtween the knees" questions to ask...and Santorum should be asked until he gives a forthright answer...and if he doesn't give an answer...then keep asking him until his head explodes!

        • 10 votes
        #20.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:11 PM EST
        Steve Watts

        Rick Santorum can't possibly believe everything his supporters say.

        True. But then, no one is accusing him of believing it. Charlie Rose only asked for a comment on it, and Santorum's reaction was to have a class nine freak-out. Apparently he finds it a grave injustice to ask him about a stupid comment over the course of a few days, and deflects by lying about his (prospective) opponent when he was hounded by a similarly stupid comment over the course of an entire month.

        Not very presidential, is it?

        • 11 votes
        #20.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:12 PM EST
        G. H.

        There isn't ONE candidate running for President that comes across as *Presidential*! IMO :-(

        • 1 vote
        #20.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:23 PM EST
        ScienceGuy-356641

        Nonequivalence ... typical of the illogical Santorum. Obama did not ask Wright to finance his campaign, nor did he invite him to stand beside him on the dais during campaign speeches, nor was Wright encouraged to actively campaign on Obama's behalf.

        It's not guilt by past association -- it's guilt by current personal and political alliance.

        • 2 votes
        #20.6 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:39 AM EST
        WaltUU

        And Obama repeatedly repudiated Wright's comments, for weeks.

        • 2 votes
        #20.7 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:39 AM EST
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        Poorworkingman

        You don’t do this with President Obama. In fact, with President Obama, you went out and defended him from someone he sat in a church for 20 years and defended him with “Oh, he can’t possibly believe what he listened to for 20 years.” This is a double standard, it’s what you’re pulling off, and I’m gonna call you on it.

        First, there is a difference between governing and preaching of belief. Second, the other party didn't start the fire, tweaked and played with it so we have no reason to give them the heat. Third, they keep that issue privately.

        Simple question to these zealots, "should we expand welfare and shrink defense spending in order to be in line with the idea pro-life?". What's a bunch of "Hypocrites".

        • 2 votes
        Reply#21 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:50 PM EST
        pacosperson

        We went an additional ten billion dollars into debt yesterday and this is the best both sides can do.

        Shame on you.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#22 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:08 PM EST
        sunshine girl-685508

        I agree that guilt by association only is not valid enough. As part of my job, I often have to do lunch with people whose beliefs I find repulsive. Someone seeing me talking and drinking with a known sexist, may think I am okay with his beliefs. I am not. I am just trying to do my job, biting my tongue all the way through.

        But this is not the case with Rick Santorum. It is not guilt by association. It is guilt by solidarity in the same philosophy. He made it very clear how he feels about women and couples who have sex for pleasure only.

        • 6 votes
        Reply#23 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:23 PM EST
        TheyreAllCrooks

        "This is someone who is a supporter of mine, and I'm not responsible for every comment that a supporter of mine makes," said Santorum on CBS's "This Morning." "It was a bad joke, it was a stupid joke, and it is not reflective of me or my record on this issue of contraception."

        Gee, that sounds like exactly the same type answer Obama gave when Rev Wright said stupid stuff, but that didn't stop the press from hounding Obama about it for weeks did it? No in fact you're now claiming the press gave Obma a pass when they did not!

        What makes you think you're going to get a pass when a major financial donor to your campaign goes on TV and says stupid stuff.

        • 6 votes
        Reply#24 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:24 PM EST
        FIGHTING FOR RIGHTS

        Ricky, Let this be a lesson. Be careful that the jokes about women you "boys" make in the locker room don't walk outside the door. Surely you guys didn't forget to make that blood brother pledge to not let the wives know what ya'll talk about in there.

        I would bet when ricky heard this joke(?) he laughed and laughed and laughed. But now that it's out he's covering his a$$.

        Just go home, ricky. Tend to your family of barbie dolls and leave the grownups to tend to the real world.

        OBAMA- 2012

        • 8 votes
        Reply#25 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:27 PM EST
        bphilly76

        very nice said

        • 3 votes
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