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Why We Fight: The Environment and Big Business

Tue Feb 7, 2012 1:58 PM EST
politics, pollution, al-gore, big-business, bush-cheney-administration, exxonmobile, why-we-fight, sagebrush-rebellion
By redsfan
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The last several years have brought more conflict and more debate in the area of environmentalism and climate change than the rest of America’s history combined. The money being poured into climate change denialism has caused many otherwise reasonable Americans to doubt the scientific findings regarding the harm being done to our environment and our climate from fossil fuel consumption. But why is this only a recent controversy? Why isn’t environmentalism addressed in the Constitution like many of our other societal issues?

HISTORY

When the Constitution of the U.S. was written, conservation of the environment was the last thing on anyone’s mind. The early settlers of America had an entire continent laid out in front of them, rich with natural resources. They could not conceive of ever using up or damaging the land, air and water that seemed so plentiful. Virginia planters even had a policy of growing their tobacco, depleting the soil, and just moving west to plant more crops on new, rich soil. It wasn’t until the late 1880’s when large forests in the Great Lakes region were cut down, resulting in raging wildfires, that conservation began to enter the consciousness of the American people.

Theodore Roosevelt was known as our first, and best, environmental president. He believed that “the preservation of our forests in an imperative business necessity”…revealing that his support of conservation was for the purposes of economic prosperity. He knew that ensuring a continuing supply of timber and setting aside areas of America for vacationing was good business sense.

PUBLIC AWARENESS and BIG BUSINESS PUSH BACK

But harmful effects of business practices to human beings did not start coming to the public’s attention until the exposure of the damaging effects of DDT in the early 1960’s and the publication of books such as “The Limits of Growth” in 1972 which argued that the Earth would eventually no longer be able to support a rapidly growing population. And in 1969, several environmental disasters, including a Santa Barbara oil spill and scary Los Angeles smog alerts, led to the establishment of Earth Day and the creation of the Environmental Protection Agency, signed into law by President Nixon, but with bipartisan support from both Republicans and Democrats.

In the 1970’s, a group of Western politicians, including Ronald Reagan, James Watt, and Dick Cheney, formed the “Sagebrush Rebellion”, a group who believed that conservation efforts regarding western lands were an attack on Big Business profits.  They cited Ayn Rand in support of their position…“Now observe that in all the propaganda of the ecologists—amidst all their appeals to nature and pleas for ‘harmony with nature’—there is no discussion of man’s needs and the requirements of his survival.” This group immediately began fighting conservation efforts with the argument that the needs of business and commerce were more important than efforts to conserve resources and reduce pollution.

AL GORE

Roger Revelle was an early researcher on global climate change (he coined the phrase “greenhouse effect”) and Al Gore was one of his students at Harvard. As a result of their connection, Gore became increasingly educated and concerned about man’s effect on the environment. Gore conducted some of the first Congressional hearings on environmental issues and climate change and authored several books on the issue, eventually winning the Nobel Peace Prize with the IPCC. Al Gore’s documentary “An Inconvenient Truth” brought the topic of man-made climate change to a wide audience and he has continued his environmental activism to this day.

BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION

When George W. Bush  became president, he immediately began shutting down government research and  scientific opinions on climate change and worked hard to skew all policies toward the energy business. Vice President Cheney’s “secret” energy policy meetings were attended by numerous energy company representatives, while environmental groups were excluded. Scientists who participating in research and reports on man-made climate change were purged from governmental jobs and their research and findings were suppressed as much as possible. Exxon Mobile literally wrote letters telling the Bush/Cheney Administration who to fire and who to put in positions of influence. The EPA under Bush refused to do anything to regulate pollution and set standards…even resulting in the Supreme Court getting involved. The Competitive Enterprise Institute,  funded by Big Oil, had a remarkable amount of influence and collaboration with the Bush/Cheney Administration, leading to conservation groups filing lawsuits and publicly exposing such ties.

As a result of suppression and deliberate distortion of scientific data, there has been little legislation to curb carbon pollutants and move our society forward toward alternative energy and independence from oil. Big Oil and Big Business interests have strong lobbying influence in Congress and have managed to stop almost all progressive energy initiatives.

SUMMARY

Obviously, environmental issues and politics have become inextricably intertwined. There have been a few environmental issues brought before the Supreme Court in the last and they have almost all been decided in favor of Big Business. The evidence of man-made climate change is growing each year, while the amount of money and influence being poured in climate change denial is also growing each year. It is one of our most divisive issues, but it shouldn’t be. We should all be able to agree that we want our planet to survive and thrive, while also allowing business and the economy to survive and thrive. This shouldn’t be an “either/or” issue…but as long as politics, instead of science, is the basis of our decision-making in this area, we will all lose…including future generations. After all, the Constitution does mention, right there in the preamble, our posterity.

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redsfan

As with other articles in my "Why We Fight" series, I found much more material in my research than I could reasonably include in my article. There is so much more information and details on this topic available to those who are interested.

I struggle with this topic myself. While I believe absolutely in the science of man-made climate change, I do believe there must be a balance between conservation and business. Right now, however, there is NO balance. Big Business is using money and influence to wipe out any reasonable proposals for conservation and energy-smart policy.

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 2:01 PM EST
Carloz

Excellent article, Redsfan! One of the answers is Green Energy -- no matter how the big boys resist it, it's growing.

Green Homes Made Up 17% of U.S. Residential Construction Market in 2011, Expected to Grow 5-Fold by 2016

Green Homes Currently a $17 B Market

More than 68% of New European Capacity Came From Wind and Solar in 2011

‎European renewable energy sector breaks through the 1 million job level

India, EU agree to work on clean energy

‎Renewable energy sources offer the next big leap in the Middle East‎

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:37 AM EST
Marshall James

corporations are looking at the new way to enslave us.

thanks for falling into line!!!!

    #1.2 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:57 AM EST
    redsfan

    Thanks for the links Carloz...and I agree. There's no reason that business can't thrive while we change the way we treat our planet! They just have to be willing to accept the necessary (and life-saving) change to their business model.

    • 4 votes
    #1.3 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:27 AM EST
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    blue wolf

    The earth itself is the foundation of all economy. So, any economic policy or theory that doesn't take that into account is doomed to failure in the long run.

    Thats just the way it is.

    Protecting the earth should be the primary concern of all economic policy.

    AND, its a no-brainer.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#2 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 2:43 PM EST
    redsfan

    I agree blue wolf...it's kind of like Teddy Roosevelt's approach to conservation, that it was good for commerce and business as well. After all, the economy is not going to be doing too well if we're in a "Mad Max" type of society.

    • 4 votes
    #2.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 2:55 PM EST
    paul kennedy

    You are absolutely right, blue wolf. A professor of mine put your point more succinctly: Ecology is the study of the economics of nature.

    • 2 votes
    #2.2 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:26 PM EST
    blue wolf

    Yup there is no economy outside of nature, and only fools refuse to see this.

    • 4 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 5:09 PM EST
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    Marshall James

    AGW is a scam..that was reported in 1967 that it would be used to control the public...they would take a credible threat..and use fear to control the masses.

    we do not have perfect knowledge.....and this is no different.

    they are using our ingnorance against us.....to grow the power of government and corporations and to decrease our rights.

    its the same ol @!$%# different day.

      Reply#3 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 2:46 PM EST
      redsfan

      What scam? Do you have a source? And how does conservation "control the public"?

      • 6 votes
      #3.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 2:54 PM EST
      blue wolf

      No it isn't Marshall and you're being played like a fiddle.

      Control the masses into what? Not buying oil?

      • 4 votes
      #3.2 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 2:56 PM EST
      Marshall James

      blue wolf are you kidding me???

      http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/gore-annoys-corn-ethanol-lobby/

      forcing me to pay the super rich is a violation of my rights.

      read the report from Iron Mountain....came out in 1967 and stated that they were going to use environmentalism to control the masses through reduction in rights and regulations.

      it was said long ago...and we are following it to the tee.

      coincidence?? I think not.

      whenever a government wants to decrease your liberty and increase its power...its time to be concerned...and revolt.

        #3.3 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:06 PM EST
        blue wolf

        Oh the official report from Iron Mountain right.

        Are you flippin serious man?

        Who's the "they" the report identifies Marshall?

        Sorces for the Iron Mtn. Report?

        I doubt it :) You conspiracy theorists give me a good laugh.

        • 5 votes
        #3.4 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:13 PM EST
        Marshall James

        and the lie that gore told about corn ethanol?? why do we use it to this day????

        and you can call it conspiracy all you want.

        the fact remains.....it was said back in 1967 that we would be doing exactly what we were doing today.

        funny thing is....we are doing it.

        so if someone came out in germany post ww1 and stated exactly what fascism was going to do...be called a conspiracy theorist....and then it happened.....would it still be a conspiracy theory then???

        makes you wonder...especially when the elite and powerful are wanting to take your rights away and impove upon their power. using credible and "measurable" evidence.

        hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

          #3.5 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:27 PM EST
          redsfan

          Our "rights" have not been reduced by any environmental regulations...unless you are talking about the "right" to pour pollution into rivers and spew poison into the air we breath....are those the "rights" you are talking about?

          • 4 votes
          #3.6 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:33 PM EST
          blue wolf

          Marshall, all I can say is...go outside and take a good look around and see if you can come to grips with the terrible price this planet has paid for a fossil fuel economy.

          It should be blatantly and conspicuously obvious.

          If it isn't..........

          • 4 votes
          #3.7 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:09 PM EST
          paul kennedy

          The amazing thing, Marshall, is how "they" got almost every scientist on the planet to go along with the deception. I mean, I'm a part of the conspiracy, and I didn't even get the memo. Brilliant.

          • 2 votes
          #3.8 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:31 PM EST
          Marshall James

          blue wolf

          you stated exactly why the said it would work...its "measurable" you can see it.

          paul kennedy

          it is not unanimous....and then of course...there was one time just a decade or two ago..that we were sure there was only 9 planets including pluto....hmmm

          scientists also said smoking was good for you.

          the earth was flat.

          we should forcibly sterilize the "undersireables" for the good of humanity....they bring us down.

          scientists have been unanimous on a lot of crazy @!$%# over time.

          this is no different.....the earth cools...its our fault...it warms..its our fault.

          remember how it used to be attributed to CO2...and how that was completely debunked.

          we could go on and on with this forever.....and of course these scientists also get funding by the government to find connections...so they dont want to bite off the hand that feeds them.

          its all bull@!$%#..they are playing on our fear and ignorance.

          • 1 vote
          #3.9 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:48 PM EST
          blue wolf

          Marshall, thats a crock of pure crap.

          Every National Academies of Science that exists on the ENTIRE PLANET is convinced of the theory.

          You are ignorant of it because you are choosing to be so, which makes it all that much more dissappointing.

          What are you talking about CO2 as the primary driver being debunked? Thats complete and utter lunacy.

          • 4 votes
          #3.10 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 5:07 PM EST
          Marshall James

          right

          and 45 years ago they said they would do exactly that to enslave the masses.

          he...but its pure coincidence that the government says you should give up more rights....give money to them and corporations....and the government increases its power.

          no...no correlation at all.

          • 1 vote
          #3.11 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 6:54 PM EST
          redsfan

          Man-made climate change is real...the science is out there for anyone who is interested in facts. The oil companies have spent millions spreading LIES about this issue because they want to milk every penny out of the industry, regardless of what it does to our planet and our future.

          • 3 votes
          #3.12 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 8:42 PM EST
          Marshall James

          redsfan

          it has not been proven and never will be.

          have we gotten warmer?? yes.....has it been proven beyond a reasonable doubt its man caused?? have we ever had periods of increased warmth and increased cold?? have there been times hotter than now?? colder???

          were all of those times man caused???

          more and more scientists are climbing on board against this bs...besides....how many more years do we have before half of the world is under water according to Gore?? 15??

          lmao

            #3.13 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:33 AM EST
            Man of Knowledge

            Marshall James

            So you contend that the billions of tons of carbon we pour into the atmosphere every day has no effect on it? I suppose you enjoy breathing polluted air?

            Keep in mind the owners of the Titanic didn't think it could be sunk and consequently took inadequate safety precautions.

            • 3 votes
            #3.14 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:35 AM EST
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            paul kennedy

            Nice article. I especially like the paragraph recapping the anti-environmental agenda of the Bush/Cheney administration. One of the most blatant examples of how the Bush administration put corporate interests before public safety and environmental protection was the Martin County Coal Mine disaster in Kentucky in 2000. There wasn't much coverage in the media, but in the early days of the Bush administration a decision was made to waive prosecution and essentially cover up one of the worst ecological disasters in United States history. Around 100 miles of steams and portions of the Ohio and Big Sandy Rivers were contaminated with highly toxic coal sludge from a containment reservoir that was in willful and gross violation of federal mine safety standards.

            http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2003/martin_coal_slurry_spill.php

            http://mouthtosource.org/rivers/ohio/2010/10/13/toxic-coal-sludge-pollutes-ky-town-10-years-later/

            • 2 votes
            Reply#4 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:06 PM EST
            redsfan

            Thank you paul...there is much more detail out there about the really blatant conflict of interest in the Bush/Cheney administration with the oil companies...and how they stripped the EPA of any real authority or effort.

            Thanks for the links.

            • 3 votes
            #4.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 8:43 PM EST
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            Man of Knowledge

            Crapping in your living room may save a trip to the bathroom but it is no way to live.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#5 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:14 PM EST
            blue wolf

            Much less crapping in your dinner plate....geez

            • 4 votes
            #5.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:21 PM EST
            redsfan

            That's for sure, Man of Knowledge....I just wish people would open their eyes and see the truth all around them.

            • 3 votes
            #5.2 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 8:44 PM EST
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            McSpocky

            Obviously, environmental issues and politics have become inextricably intertwined. There have been a few environmental issues brought before the Supreme Court in the last and they have almost all been decided in favor of Big Business. The evidence of man-made climate change is growing each year, while the amount of money and influence being poured in climate change denial is also growing each year. It is one of our most divisive issues, but it shouldn’t be.

            This is another reason that it is vitally important for us to re-elect President Obama. There will need to be probably a couple of Justices to appoint in the next few years, and the court already leans to the right by a five to four margin. If we want to see justices appointed that will rule in the best interests of the people and not the corporations, the LAST think we need is a Teapublican President.

            Excellent Job! Feel free to message me when you have important articles or seeds up, otherwise I might miss them And I'm not usually as far behind on my email as I am at the moment. :)

            • 5 votes
            Reply#8 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:57 PM EST
            redsfan

            If we want to see justices appointed that will rule in the best interests of the people and not the corporations, the LAST think we need is a Teapublican President.

            So true, McSpocky....thanks for the comment.

            • 2 votes
            #8.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:56 AM EST
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