Allen West: Obama Supporters Are 'A Threat To The Gene Pool'

He and others like him are the threat.

No he is not the threat.
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

"The danger to America is not George Bush but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of a Bush presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Bush, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a George Bush, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

RIO-lover

Brilliant……….but, I am not real confident the liberals here will be able to decipher your meaning…!!!

Rio and Pcman... I deciphered his meaning but as you see from Curt, WI the same could be said about the republicans and teabaggers... I am surprised that there was a republican smart enough to come up with that prose. OH WAIT he didn't... that was a quote by an ancient Roman Lawyer about the Roman Empire... some stupid teabagger found it and started a hoax that it came from a Chezk citizen... it was picked up by all the RED-NECKED STUPID teabagger sites and went viral before someone realized that it was a fake... it is still quoted today with out the proper citation... What a bunch of maroons.... at least give credit to the DEMOCRAT that first said it about the corrupt REPUBLICAN senate of Rome

just so you are educated here is the link.... TEABAGGERS ARE STUPID

Nice try whatthe but it ain't the same quote.
You just keep on finding ways to cover up for your messiah Oblamer's FUs and we will let November 2012 be the final decision maker.

RIO lover it is so close as to be plagerism... you would know that if you ever took a college level english course...

Yes we will and I will gloat all the way to the victory party, what with the losers that the republican party has put forth so far... but I am sure your waiting for failin... oh I mean Palin to step in...

So you say it is plagerism when the only thing close in comparison between the two in meaning or wordage is the phrase "A nation can survive its fools".

BTW you go ahead and plan your "victory party" with Obama being able to run his reelection campain touting all his acomplishments and such. (laughs)

oh, i deciphered the meaning easily.

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency."

ergo, we must remove the ability of the citizenry to elect such leaders. we will decide who we, i mean, they will be and protect the sheep, i mean people from themselves, for their own good.

Tomm

All in the name of protecting democracy.

Hmmm sounds like McCarthy.

or Vietnam: 'we've got to destroy the village [Medicare, what-have-you] to save it.'

Yes, West is a threat. I was replying to how his choise of words sounds very dangerous like another man in history. If West *thinks* all people who voted and supported Obama are a danger to the *gene pool*, it's obvious he thinks we should not exist. Far-right thinking like that will destroy the democracy of this nation.

Face the facts. In a democracy, the majority tells who becomes President. To say those people are ruining the 'gene pool', it's clear people on the loosing side want to think the other side should go away. We elected all our Presidents, including Obama, because the majority wants it.

West and anyone like him is a threat to our democracy.

OH WAIT he didn't... that was a quote by an ancient Roman Lawyer about the Roman Empire...

I could care less whether Rio’s post was original or their learning from an Ancient Lawyer………it is quite accurate and Curt is clearly the copycat … !!!! The point of the post , Obama is an inexperienced human life form who is strategically rehearsed in delusional recital but those who cling to the fantasy that he is anything more are the origin of concern…….!!

You mean the same as GW was... and many Presidents before him.... Tell me the school you go to become "experianced" enough to be president.

I do believe he is human, which technically is a life form... although you mean it as an insult... typical of the rednecked right

jupmod: In a democracy, the majority tells who becomes President. To say those people are ruining the 'gene pool', it's clear people on the loosing side want to think the other side should go away.

lol! combining the two, it's like the people in the shallow end of the pool where there's less water saying the people in the deep end of the pool are messing things up, making too many waves or something. remember: deep end for mature adults who know how to swim, shallow end for immature babies who don't.

This website reveals he is all bark and no bite, but like so many in Congress gets on the boob tube for their moronic statements, which they say to piss us off (which D.W. Shultze does not do, nor does she have a big mouth- wtf?).

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=412413

Some of the bills he's proposed are somewhere between not bad, laughable and cute and cuddly.

Clearly, his Islam related comments are comically incendiary. I'd be more worried about Herman Cain's views in that regard.

His district is the tony Palm Beach area. I hear he's best friends with Mr. Hamoodi now.

s/

Demmy -

West's district also includes some not so "tony" areas in Broward County, areas that would get hurt badly by the budget bills he is supporting.

And you're right, Schultz is the antithesis of West. How he gets off calling her vile is mind-boggling.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/19/2321651/west-trashes-wasserman-schultz.html

West is a deranged cad with no class. He keeps forgetting to look away from the funhouse mirror in which he admires himself, and projects what he sees onto those he doesn't like. Just like the rest of his ilk, Teaberculosis party, Christreich Bible corrupters, Flux Spews, and their anti-American masters like Murdoch and the Koch brothers.

With that sort of pedigree (talk about a polluted gene pool), how could he not call somebody else vile and unprofessional? He'd not be able to help himself.

the yahoo obami into office

those peabrains of theirs!

Debbie Vasserman Shultzie -- what a big mouth,

Another 3 year old acting out.

Don, she's been all over the vine with her ignorant and childish posts and offers nothing to support these ignorant and childish posts. It's easy to spew nonsense like this when no one can see you.

Debbie is the Paco in and out of the House.

determined0a1

Since you haven't a clue what the term Paco means, we will excuse your feckless attempt to say anything.

If I were to harbor a guess, mighty heidi looks like a sleeper re-reg. She filed two or more profiles under various names and took this latest one active after she got bounced under another name. She's done nothing but spread troll $hit all over the vine.

Paco is a barking Chihuahua.

Try again. And keep trying until you get it correct.

This is the best the GOP/TP has to offer at securing the Black Vote in the 2012 Elections with these two yahoos?!?!?!?!?!?

Well, unless you support Maxine Waters for President.

Debbie is the Paco in and out of the House.

Paco is a barking Chihuahua.

Yep, look at Debbie Wasserman Schultz attempting to chasing off the republicans while they're robbing the American people.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504784_162-20080683-10391705.html?tag=newsvine

! VIVA PACO !

Debbie is the Paco in and out of the House

So that would mean the republicans are what is picked up by the pooper scooper and the tee party is what flows down its leg:)

What I find EXTREMELY funny is how Mighty Heidi continues to blame Obama for the state that the economy is in RIGHT NOW, but she refuses to admit that the originator of this mess is his predecessor, GWB.

Let me bring you up to speed, Mighty Heidi:

When Bush took over the reigns of leadership from President Clinton, he was handed an economy that was $ 1 Trillion USD in the positive. What does "Dubya" do? He gave EVERYONE a stimulus check, he DE-REGULATED the laws that kept Wall Street in line, he kept TWO WARS OFF OFF THE BOOKS, and finally he gave the TOP TWO percent one of the grandest tax cuts the likes of which had FDR spinning in his grave!!!!

One would think that the Democrats winning the House and senate back in 2007 would think that it should be ENOUGH to fix the damages caused by the 43rd President, but when you take in consideration that he vetoed EVERY piece of financial reform legislation that the House and Senate passed (11TIMES!!!), it stands to reason that this mess was only going to get worse to the point of where we are at TODAY!!!!

So, Mighty Heidi, I pose this statement to you and ANY other Conservative: If the things that the GOP/TP propose to fix this situation is so great, explain to me WHY do you have 70% of Conservatives, MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PARTY, outright rejecting their plan.

Excellent post, Kevin, but some people are not interested in facts or thinking. It's easier to spew than it is to think.

FR sent your way!

FR accepted in the way that it was sent, Happily Blue:

GRACIOUSLY!!!!

Exactly, why let the facts get in the way of the truth, damn, that is so unamerican.

Irresponsible blank check spending......

Didn't the Bush administration have the debt ceiling raised 7 times? But yes, Obama is the only one who has spent money irresponsibly, even though his spending was in an effort to avoid a depression.

Didn't the Bush administration have the debt ceiling raised 7 times? But yes, Obama is the only one who has spent money irresponsibly

That is one of the most unimformed bassackwards thing I've heard in some time...Bush walks away from a 5 tril surplus to run up a 6 tril debt bill, net 11 trillion loss. deficit spending costs magnitudes more in a relatively strong growing economy than when it collapses as it did in 08. After war, there is no bigger threat to our country than a crippling depression that could alter the country irrevocably.

Randy

First off, what Jeff said was sarcasm, he was pointing out the hypocrisy of the GOP and the tea baggers that make comments like that.

Second:

What do you mean a 5 Trillion dollar surplus. A deficit/surplus is a time period accounting of excess spending/unspent spending from revenues. In this case, the time period is annual. At now point was the surplus 5T, it never even hit 2B. Was it stupid to blow the work done under the previous administration? yes big time, but exaggerating the amount doesn't give you any credibility it takes it away.

Miss Mighty Heidi,

Why did Reagan raise the debt ceiling 17 times?

Why did GW Bush raise the debt ceiling 7 times?

Why did GW leave with us an 11.8 Trillion dollar deficit?

DID you know their is a study out showing, that watch Fox News can make you stupid?

http://www.alternet.org/story/149193/study_confirms_that_fox_news_makes_you_stupid

Determined0a1:

I will take Maxine Waters OVER Herman Cain AND Allen West in a hot millisecond!!!!!!

DID you know their is a study out showing, that watch Fox News can make you stupid?

Judging by the presentation of this statement, you must watch it 24/7.......!

PCMan

No I do not watch fox, But YOU on the other hand do.

I watch MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, NPR, BBC, Documentaries, the History channel had a really good movie on called 'Too Big To Fail"

That was VERY interestin, it showed how GW administration @!$%#ed up big time.

PC-broaden your horizon and watch other than FOX

Really MJL-3. The History Channel? If it don't come from the beckster, or his quack historian barton, IT AIN'T TRUE!

Curt,

OK, well I guess if people think that it isnt true unless it comes from beckster or barton, then I guess they are sucked into the cesspool of Fox, and no hope for survival so.............. All I can tell them is:

Happy swimming,

Spot on MJL-3.

Curt,

Thanks :)

I love the History Channel and Discovery Channel and Nat. Geographic, the more I learn the Happier I am.

Yeah, I watch those channels too. I also watch, YIKES, TLC. LOL! Amazing what you can learn when you switch the channel from fixed news.

Curt ,

I double check why the Dems/Left/Liberals don't like Fox News and is because they report news that the other agencies are blind, deaf and mute.

Absolutely,

I used to watch fox in 2000 but after 2003 when they blantatly back GW, that was enough.

We have a rule in my house, if I walk into the Living room fox and better not be on. My husband knows better. He hates politics and Fox can really get me going.

Well, in my home my hubby controls his control and after I listen any news I go and double check. ABC in the internet does a good job and also an independent reporting from the WH.

determined)a1,

Oh, mine controls the remote to, He is the KING of the castle, but after 38 yrs of being together, he know not to piss me off and FOX does it every time. So he wait when I leave the room or watches it when I am busy with other things.

Otherwise , I usually watch whatever he is, which is usually documentaries.

determined:

What does TV have to do with your husbands controller?

I'm thinking that if his numbers don't improve, he'll really have to start ramping up the crazy.

Then we should see a great sideshow coming from Obama in the next few weeks.

Wjm5-0:

Well Stated!!!! FR Sent.

I would, however, advise caution; for the GOP/TP may call us racist because 96% of African Americans (like you and I) WILL NOT vote for Herman Cain in the 2012 Presidential Election.

wjm:

doesn't matter what the color of their skin is, the racial group that they descended from, the heritage that they were raised in, his beliefs and attitudes are not part of the core values of respect that our society needs, for everybody. You take his picture off the article, and he is still the same racist hateful bastard that he is with the pic, His comments about jews, his comments about muslims, his comments towards a specific woman whom he sits with in congress that have been mentioned in this article, there is no place for it in our society.

Kevin:

You better watch it, if you don't vote for Cain, he might air you out gangsta style. (his comments are rank amateur compared to West, but hey, give him time)

Jonathan:

Can you see it; the GOP/TP making this statement in order to garner the Black Vote?

"VOTE FOR CAIN OR BRACE YOURSELF, FOOL!!!!"

Oh,yeah... I'm REALLY "respectin'" their gangsta. /EXTREME SARC/

or something like,

'Capone was a pussy compared to Cain'.

Nice!!!!!!

FR on the way, Jonathan.

lol.. Chris Matthews.. wait wait... the same people who said anyone who criticized Obama was racist but can clown on West and Cain all day? Idiots who are so subjective and clueless. Pot calling kettle black? I would say most of America's gene pool is screwed up right now....on all sides. As long as our cable TV is on and we can watch Jersey Shore, Charlie Sheen or the Casey Anthony saga and lose more brain cells. We sit here divided pointing fingers at one side or the other " Bush's fault!!!, Obama's fault" while they run this country in the ground. Anyone who thinks Obama or Bush are, or were doing a great job are idiots. If anyone thinks one Party has all of the answers, or one Party is more or less corrupt than the other needs to see a mental health provider.

Alex, i gave you a vote because you correctly spelled "lose"

Just like their ancestors did during the Civil War. The rich led their poor, non-slaveholding neighbors to a distasterous, traiterous war and disaster. They allow it still. Their wealthy betters tell them about the liberal boogie-man and they snap to attention like good little morons. Back to the front, Jethros and Bubbas! Gotta protect the masters ill gotten wealth.

West's comment about Congresswoman Schultz validated my comment. He called her vile and despicable. These sorry azz people have no business serving in Congress. Especially with his disgraceful military record.

Especially with his disgraceful military record.

That's what I don't understand.

Nice... lots of herd idiots out today. So tell me Cee. So Pelosi and her 57 million are all about the poor? How about Harry Reid? So what plan do they have about our 14.3 trillion debt? Raise taxes and not reform spending? Go read the facts rather than sit their with your tinfoil herd hat on while you listen to the blame-game Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, or even worse... Bill Maher.

Alexander, We need to do both raise taxes and cut WASTEFUL spending. We need to rebuild our infrastructure and education system. Pelosi and Reid is not the only millionaires in Congress. There are over 230 millionaires in Congress and Senate representing both parties. So don't try to change the subject. The GOP are MAINLY responsible for the 14.3 TRILLION dollar debt. These Dems, GOP and THE TEA PARTY are bought by the Big corporations. There are some good Dems and GOP'ers in Congress but are rarely heard from. Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow and Bill Maher point out the facts in which the GOP blatantly ignore.

Too true. Back to the Jim Crow days.

Too true. Back to Jim Crow days.

Ushered in state by state where Govenors such as our illustrious Republican Gov. Haslam in Tennessee, as of this date, and heretofore, signed into law, the requirement for the citizens of the State to present a Voter ID, as of January 1, 2012.

Care to take a bite of this southern- tea-cake inspired 'Poll Tax', anyone?

A polecat with a poll tax pole axe. We will surely have to take the shine and the edge off this blade. The People say so.

And then we will clear out the stink of the polecat from the hallowed halls of Tennessee's state government. The sooner, the better.

OMG. People will actually have to prove they have a LEGAL right to vote by showing a free government provided ID. The horror of it all!!! Guess that means fewer voters to reelect this regime.

Xbonz

Free government ID?

You've got it all wrong. Any ID needed will have to be purchased, such as driver's liscenses and/or state IDs.

Also, when you register at your local state election commission office, that is the legal document for voting and it does not cost any money. The fact that this is a goverment office, every Constitutional convience they provide to the general public is paid for through our taxes.

This voter ID that will be required can be an expense to the poor, the elderly, and other groups who have not necessarily needed to purchase a photo ID. There are lots of people who don't have their photos on their driver's liscenses. There are legal numerous reasons as to why this is not required. Anyway, when someone's picture ID is stolen, it never prevents the thief from putting their own picture on it.'

Having to purchase a photo ID to vote is the same thing as a poll tax. Either one is un-Constitutional because it is paying a fee for something needed to vote, and interferes with our civil and Constitutional rights.

Off topic, but so is Herman Cain, Bill Haslam, Alan West, and any other of these Republican blowhards who intend to take America backwards by any means necessary. With people such as Cain and West, tell them that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

What the heck do they think a return to States' Rights would be for minorities? Are they totally unaware that this is part of the entire Tea Party Republican platform? Both of them must have been out sick or in mental institutions when American History was taught when they were in school.

There is something seriously wrong when you support any party that Rand Paul and Michele Bachman belong to(need I say it?), especially if you are in a minority population. I seriously doubt if I need to go on about what this entails.

When I called Cain and West brown-nosing wannabes, I see them as sell-out and traitors, not only to their own race, who is probably being historically more negatively affected by everything the Tea Party Republicans are doing, but when their usefulness is drained, they will thrown under the bus just like Michael Steele.

Tell you what,

Take Herman Cain, Alan West, Clarence Thomas, and all such else who have no love for anything of common sense and fair play.....and toss them out of a fricking 2nd story window in the Florida legislation house. Use Michelle Malkin as the cushion for them to land on. That should take care of at least four of these traitors.

Forgive me if my rant is a long. The ignorance and dupability of people such as these who appear to be well-educated and intelligent(tongue in cheek here), is truly mind -boggling. They seem to be suffering from some form of 'bought and paid for' mass amnesia.

Go figure.

it is not to long, when it is the truth, thanks

So Xbonz, the current welfare system in the inner city is working so well? It is the most oppressive and racist idea ever. Provide no opportunity, just take your free handout shutup and vote for me. So what great idea do the democrats have about solving the problems in the African American community? What is Obama doing about the high unemployment, high crime and % of black males in prison? Are you seeing the change you can believe in? Did not think so, nothing has changed.

> So Xbonz, the current welfare system in the inner city is working so well? It is the most oppressive and racist idea ever.

It's actually the 20th century liberalism form of eugenics.

Links?

Marxist? That's when I know I am dealing with someone impervious (look it up, dictionary.com) to facts or reason, who just wants to spew nonsense he picked up elsewhere.

I'm sure Stormfront is missing your bon mots! Toodles to you.

"Marxist in Chief"? Kinda sounds similar to "War Criminal" and "Congressional Casey" ain't it? :)

2012 is going to be a "don't miss it" event in politics for sure :)

"Marxist in Chief"? Kinda sounds similar to "War Criminal" and "Congressional Casey" ain't it? :)

Well, with the small caveat that mine have roots in reality.

The only way a person could call Obama a "Marxist" is if he is so far to the right he is in danger of falling off the scale.

West is a war criminal who got away with his deeds. He is a disgusting, horrible human being.

You're just mad because an intelligent black man said it.

Wait a minute, IAS:

You "THINK" that West is "INTELLIGENT"?

Wow... That explains why my branch of service is getting its ass handed to them by the Midshipmen during the Army/Navy Game.

I repeat my question asked in #9:

This is the best the GOP/TP has to offer at securing the Black Vote in the 2012 Elections?

Making a statement like West's actually shows a lack of intelligence and an unwillingness to take other ideas into account. It is funny because the only reason he isn't on a plantation now is because of the very ideology he enjoys attacking so much.

Jeff,

If you don't mind, may you please forgive me for correcting your last statement in that post:

"It is funny because the only reason he calls Plantation, Florida home instead of a plantation is because of the very ideology he enjoys attacking so much."

Again, apologies for correcting you. :P ;)

cheers.

where private property in the means of production would be superseded by co-operative ownership.

Please show where Obama has suggested this.

Obama gives Russians British Secret Nuclear sub info.

Prove it.

Obama tells Israel to go back to 1967 borders.

Oh, you mean the same thing Jr. Bush suggested and the majority of Israelis support?

Holder and DOJ refusing to help Issa and Grassley.

What should they help them on? Oh, and Issa is a criminal himself. Just goes to show what a joke the GOP is when they put him in charge of ethics.

How about the illegal attack on a soverign nation, Libya?

You must have been very upset about Iraq in 2002, right?

Face it, you have nothing but wiki nonsense and debunked GOP noise.

Yawn x really yawn....

Sally, I don't agree with your decision to suspend David-1955. He is merely illustrating the typical mouth-breathing response that one gives when one has no real argument. I would ask that you reinstate him so that he can have a chance to respond to this...

i agree with sally

I agree with sally, even when she's had to suspend me for a day,

She is SPOT on, as is Tyler.

to much smoke

No he doesn't speak intelligently nor truthfully, he speaking to the lowest common denominator in society... he speaks like a right wing disc jockey...thats why you like him because you slake up the hyperpartisan ideological junkfood and you think its filet mignon.

damn randy, i like the way you lay it out, no frills.

I am highly skeptical that Mr. West even knows the basics of genetics. That aside history has shown that the only ones who are an actual threat are the ones that sound like West.

Well considering his religious beliefs, or what he has expressed about them, I would doubt that he would believe that genetics is science.

Hitler?

I was just thinking the same thing; eugenics?

One does not necessarily have to be a lily white Aryan to hold and espouse a neo-fascist, hyper-nationalist point of view now a days.

Ding, ding, ding.

You are all correct.

You are all winners of an all expense paid trip to the National Nut Case Republican Convention in beautiful, Tampa Bay Florida. Date TBD.

Don't you think Reagan is rolling in his grave on how crazy these Tparty people turned the Republican party into?

I might add that this Hitler has made a deal with another called Grover Norquist Taking away tax choice.

> I was just thinking the same thing; eugenics?

We're already practicing eugenics.

Isn't it eugenics when we're paying (welfare) women in the ghetto and projects to have many more kids then they can support?

Madhatter

That's the exact opposite of eugenics. The myth of the welfare cadillace queen is still en vogue on the right....as if women rear more children...to make more money from the state...for a maximum $90 more a month..do you know how much it cost to raise a child per month?

I still have not heard an actual real world example of a welfare queen.

Isn't it eugenics when we're paying (welfare) women in the ghetto and projects to have many more kids then they can support?

Funny you should mention ghetto in #27.6, MadHatter24.

And although Jeff (#27.8) has never met a "welfare queen," I actually did deal with one a few years ago.

She was young, white, and lived in a rural area, having her fourth child (at age 22). Each of the children had a different father and this young woman knew the welfare system better than county workers who were handling her case. She knew more different ways to get money for things that we didn't know the state would pay for...

Sorry my experience doesn't fit your stereotype. Maybe it would be better not to paint with such a wide brush?

Finding one is hardly a problem. The cost of finding all the 'welfare queens' of the nation will definitely exceed the money saved, especially if this person is not actually breaking the law.

Really Jon? Care to name one? I mean its no problem after all...

Randy:

I probably should have addressed that to Happily BLUE in Ohio as it was a response to his comment about having to deal with one.

As far as I am concerned, every system is going to get abused, but isolated cases are too expensive to investigate and prosecute.

How can you question someone who has a higher security clearance than President Obama?!

How can you question someone who has a higher security clearance than President Obama?!

Now that West decided to retire under questionable conditions, people who worked for him in the war who would have questioned his need for a high security clearance, and the strange things he says now...... I doubt west could get a high security clearance.

Mary-1324335

How can you question someone who has a higher security clearance than President Obama?!

Obama doesn't need a security clearance. No president does. If anything, his clearance would be a "need to know" clearance. And the President does NEED TO KNOW everything.

And anyone of these political entities SHOULD be questioned, vigorously on everything if they are there to represent US. And this includes West!

Furthermore being that he was allowed to retire the incident causing this would have caused a flagging of his clearance since it could be used to compromise him thus choosing retirement probably didn't save his high security but could have downgraded it nevertheless.

DS12,

Well the clearance is owned by the entity that has hired him, so before he was elected, if he said that he 'has', meaning present tense, a higher clearance than the president, then he is flat out lying because his clearance would have been revoked when he 'retired'. Clearance though is two parts at the higher levels, the first part is, can you get clearance, and second is do you need to know. Nobody at 'top secret' levels have clearance to everything. It is all compartmentalized. That is why the president really doesn't have a clearance, he has access to everything.

Anyways, my point is that having retired, he lost his clearance anyways. Now if he to work for a company where he needed to get clearance again, (that first level), his previous holding of that clearance would help him get through the background checks etc...

However, his boasting about the clearance that he has, in my mind, would have disqualified him in that application because part of having that clearance is that you are discrete about having it.

Very True Jonathan but he makes it sound good to the general public who wouldn't know( I knew he was lying right off) but it is still brings a laugh when people repeat the lie.

I for one would think his clearance would have been revoked when the charges were made against him the security manager would have recommended it until it was cleared one way or the other.

Well they would have been revoked the moment he retired anyways. I don't know how his 'issues' were handled and don't know the exact process. I don't believe his base clearance would have been revoked without 'conviction' though. It would have been the specific items part that would have been 'suspended'.

One of the reasons why my business partner stayed in the ANG and later the reserves for so long after he 'retired' was specifically to keep that base clearance, from which he can apply for specific compartmentalized clearances based on a need to know.

When I heard the boast about him having that clearance, I just said to myself, well I guess he doesn't now because telling people that is actually a violation that would revoke that clearance. And yes, he is marketing himself to the redneck crowd by doing that.

Now I made the comment that he probably doesn't get the irony of a black man living in a city/town called plantation, florida. Seems nobody else in here did. lol

. I don't believe his base clearance would have been revoked without 'conviction' though

His clearance would have had been restricted or downgraded temporarily depending on the offense.

It is late so some might have not caught the fact that he lives in Plantation Fl

that 'compartmentalized' clearance (that would be the subject specific clearance) would have been suspended, but revoking his base top secret clearance would have remained. But that doesn't give you access to anything, it just gives you the ability to apply to get the subject clearance.

I looked and didn't see anything that he would have done that would have given him the clearance he described, though that could have been sealed as well. His public record just indicates that he was infantry, and artillery and then an exchange officer with the marines. After that, he was an instructor. Again, his 'clearance' service record could be sealed, but there doesn't seem to be anything to justify significant clearance to anything.

He certainly would not have gotten it when he was an adviser to the Afghan national army (wow with his views on islam, he must have been popular there) as he would not need to know anything that high level.