Govs. Rick Perry And Rick Scott Go AWOL During State Emergencies To Attend Secret Koch Event

Rick Scott bought his election down here in Florida and his approval rating is now in the toilet.

After this last election, I'm convinced that Americans are among the stupidest people on earth. The vote for people who has an agenda to destroy what is in our best interest.

read my comment above gillanator....i wouldn't doubt for a second that these 2010 elections were rigged, due to extremely low turnout and no on really paying attention....Nixon said it best (from experience i guess) its not the crime, its the lie...keep vigilant and catch these guys in a real big lie, and turnout in 2012 to take over the legislatures, maybe they can be impeached, especially in florida's case

Classic example of the GObP's and Republicans National "Complicity's" idea of transparency.

This party had two DICKs and two KOCHs. Need I say anymore?

Gotta love those media people, they'll track you to Timbuktu...LOL

What I like is Perry flew there on a lobbyists private jet. I wonder does he not have to declare that in his financial statement?

I think NC's former governor (Easley) got in some hot water recently over flight provided and not reported.

A flight is considered an in-kind contribution (source)

precisely. Conversely if you are so ashamed of an activity, that you feel a need to do it covertly, perhaps its a sign that you shouldnt do it at all!

Nancy, they are not ashamed, they are just aware that what they are doing would be viewed as betrayal by their constituents, so they try to hide it. If they were ashamed they wouldn't crawl up to lick the Kochs' butts in the first place. These conservative radical pols have no shame. They are arrogant, callous, greedy, narrow minded mediocrities.

they are not ashamed...

They have no shame, no decency, no ethics,.....

Don't you see..They HAD to go .perry was bringing the Mexican hookers..

Don't you see..They HAD to go .perry was bringing the Mexican hookers..

Great, now the corporate plutocracy is outsourcing prostitutes too? Will they leave us NO jobs whatsoever?

Great, now the corporate plutocracy is outsourcing prostitutes too? Will they leave us NO jobs whatsoever?

Kudos Hempluva. 2 Thumbs up!

Hey Demo.... it is no surprise that Perry met with the Kochs. He has been a member in good standing of ALEC, funded by the Kochs and other corporate types for more than 30 years. They are the ones whose lobbyists write the laws that they push through congress. Laws like the impossible 3-strikes law wherein one can go to prison for life for stealing a cheap bottle of wine or food. Or the "enhanced sentencing" which loads more and more years onto punishment at taxpayer expense all the while telling their constituents they are protecting the public, meanwhile enriching the prison industrial complex ad infinitum. It is all for corporate profits. They behave as if we owe them our taxes for being allowed to live here.

All for one and that "one" is not us.

here,

more stories on the koch brothers:http://www.cpa-connecticut.com/blog/?tag=koch-brothers

They know what they do but Koch's pay for their time and risk. It's called corruption.

pod people

ARE we really sure about that.......hmmmm.

Sounds like a conflict of "the voters" interests

An absolute conflict Pacific Northwest Blogger. I think Scott is in direct conflict with the Florida constitution. Voters in every state need to start fighting back for the rights of individuals, freedoms lost to corporatist, the and for preservation of a "true" democracy.

As Americans and citizens, such conflicts of interest and violation of ethics should not be tolerated in our public officials, including Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, a shill for the Koch Brother. He has tarnished the position.

I doubt boycotting Georgia-Pacific brands would make a dent in the Koch empire.

Kate:

I've seen a bit of a dent. Folks at Harris Teeter(supermarkets) have been pushing GP products like Brawny and some have been bypassing the on-sale products. Some folks are fed up with the Kochtopus family.

I shop Harris Teeter - but I buy most of my paper products at Costco. Of course now I understand the GP product promotions!

(My point in #10.1 was that GP is a tiny part of the Koch empire.)

What part of NC are you in?

It probably wouldn't make a difference simply because so many are INdifferent to what is happening. I have already had a personal boycott of Koch bro products for over a year, and I have NEVER shopped at Walmart! But I am just one American who cares about my country. I know there are millions more, I just wish they would be more proactive about it.

Thanks for the link Kate, here are their household products:
http://www.gp.com/forYourHome/viewbrands.html

Thanks, SH.

For self-satisfaction I will not purchase any Koch Ind household products, however, in reality if thousands of people did the same it would just be a petty annoyance to Koch. Koch Ind is a mega-conglomerate, a boycott would have no effect on their bottom line. I tell as many people as I can to avoid using Rick Scott's Solantic Clinics. Again, all I get is the satisfaction. What does seem to have an effect on them is bad press. They have a sensitivity to that. I remember Rachel Maddow saying that they can pump millions of $$$ into campaigns but it still comes down to one person- one vote. Staying home is how we got Scott.

Koch Ind is a mega-conglomerate, a boycott would have no effect on their bottom line.

It's worth the effort, even if it ends up having little more effect than settling one's conscience.

My guess is that even if average consumers were to completely unify and have a 100% effective boycott of products the Koch brothers produce, they'd just have their sponsored governors and some future sponsored president set up no-bid contracts for supplying government offices and the military with $3000-a-roll toilet paper and $5000-a-roll paper towels, along with whatever their other non-GP companies produce, while making sure those same politicians continue to run in a platform that includes the plank of "cutting wasteful government spending."

This is getting rediculous!

My school used to use GP toilet paper now we don't.... it may be none of the schools do now. I work for the 4th largest school district in the US. Who knows... ::walks off whistling::

Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell was there

http://www.commonblog.com/2011/06/28/who-was-at-the-2011-koch-corporate-caucus-in-vail-co/

And, there is specualtion that John Kasich (Ohio Governor) was also there...but, he's a "fan"

http://www.politicususa.com/en/john-kasich-secret-video

Wonder if anyone had a cellphone camera or recording device operating during the payoffs/meeting...or does Koch Bros. do a TSA full scan body search at the door and confiscate all video and listening devices...

They could make a million $$ if they released those photo's to the MSM...

Thanks for the link Rachel I put it to good use in message 3.3 here

Great Broke Back Mountain, that's just NNNNAAAASSSSTTTTEEEE, NC Slim!!!!!!!!

<<<<<<huuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrkkkkkkk>>>>>>>

There goes my breakfast, lunch, and-soon-to-be dinner.

ummmm... one word.

BLEACH!!!!

As Tyler Perry's Character "Mr. Brown" would say, and let me ad lib a bit:

"Scott and Perry kissing in the tree

N-A-S-T-E-E-E

THAT'S NASTY!!!!!!!!!!"

We CAN'T because the repugs control both of the state houses, they killed the recall bill. What we need to do is get him impeached, my only problem is that his lt gov is a black female republican. And yes that seems oxymoronic. All I can presuppose is she likes the abuse, being treated like trash, and being the token female and token black. Do we really want someone that filled with self-hatred, as to deliberately place herself in a political party that despises her for being who she is, in the governor's seat?

Count the voters in this household in Kevin.

..and the voters in my house as well!

WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO GET RICK "BATBOY" SCOTT RE-CALLED OUT OF THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION!!!!!!!!

State Sen Rick Kriseman is re-introducing his recall bill. I doubt it will see the light of day. The repugs have a stranglehold in both statehouses.

I am seeing no good opportunities to remove Scott, but I will be damned if Kriseman isn't trying! I am on his side in hoping we can do the nearly impossible to get Florida Back from these Destructionists as soon as possible.

Get on the Ball, Floridians, and do something right for once!!

Kevin, I agree. I think it's going to take mass demonstrations in Tallahassee with lots of news coverage to force things to happen. At the very least, it will force the spotlight of the media to focus on Scott. Bound to be something that shows up - I refuse to believe he's spotless.

All I can say is, just let me know when and I'll take the time off and be there!

The corporate owned national media does not provide information. It deflects and distracts with sensationalism. The indie press and bloggers are the best bets for rooting out informaton of paramount importance to we, the people.

Whatever the Koch's own, including politicians, is theirs to be used as the Kochs see fit. Their world order is dangerous. The politicians who are playing by Koch dictates will be crushed the same as the rest of us if the Kochs win.

A lot of those calling themselves journalists are little more than the good old fashioned GOSSIPS and much of what they parade around as news is total misrepresentation at best... fabrication at worst, shallow and manipulative trying to fool themselves into believing they are important and pridefully patting themselves on the back as controlling opinion, just like the good old-fashioned neighborhood gossips, only the neighborhood is much bigger.

Opinion8ed.#19.2...Thank You... the perfect description of Fox hosts and News Corp...

You don't honestly believe that the Koch brothers don't already have at least a few of the major media outlets in their pockets ... do you? Why on earth would they go after their golden goose?

No, none. However, they are supposed to be working for their state, not the Koch brothers.

Do either of these Governors have any freedom to choose what they do in presumably "their personal time" on the weekend?

Sure they can. What's disturbing is the fact that they attended a meeting organized by folks who are among the very largest donors to the GOP and apparently tried to keep the fact that they went a secret. That smells more than a little fishy to me.

As to the go-venators carrying buckets putting out fires, darned straight they should be.

Yes, governors, senators, representatives are all on the clock 24/7. If they weren't, why would there be such bruhahas in regard to sexual misconduct. They signed up to be under the microscope, so that's what they should expect.

They are required to have public diaries and keep to them. They are not allowed to have secret meetings, if you have to slink away then perhaps you shouldn't be doing it!

Past Govs. Bob Graham and Lawton Chiles had no compuctions about putting on their jeans and workboots to help out Floridians around the state. That all ended when Jeb took over. Don't expect any hands on help from Scott either.

So are you saying you're a kochlover RobLNevada?

ObamalsGodAwful, are you on the Koch Brother's or some Koch Foundation payroll? How about Fox News or Clear Channel? Why don't you defend Charles & David Koch and their political activities and their influence? The only Kochonuts that I know of (and there are many) are those libertarian-republican-tea party ones that exist on the 'conservative' right. Furthermore, that 'liberal', 'marxist', 'commie', 'George Soros' crap that you relentlously sprew on a regular basis is getting real old. It serves no purpose other than to 'provoke' inflamatory discourse. It does nothing to discover real solutions. It only defeats those efforts.

One further thing, it's my guess, you are a re-reg. Your column indicates that you are a new arrival. Tyler or Sally should look into this.

The Kochs are Americans, no different than Immelt, Obama's crony. Why don't you first beat down the Obama cronies like Immelt and Soros, then your complaints might have some credibility. As it stands, we know the outrage is feigned, pure partisan politics, pure hate for those that win in orthodox America, those that whip your butts in a fair competition.

Kochs are Americans, no doubt about that... ...however, they are very, very, very bad Americans. Is Immelt actively influencing elections? Is George Soros actively influencing elections? Are you saying that I should beat down Obama?!?? Why on earth would I want to do that WHEN I have no valid reason to do so? Especially when I truely believe that he represents my best interests. Furthermore I am an independent (no party) voter!!! And a centrist to boot!!!

Is Immelt actively influencing elections? Is George Soros actively influencing elections?

Yep, and yep.

Obama might well represent your best interests. Unfortunately, Obama does not represent America's interests. Greece is calling for the Marxists. The Muslim Brotherhood is calling for the Christian and Jew haters. America is calling for neither.

They may be Americans but they make their money screwing Americans.

I seriously doubt you even know what the Koch brothers own or sell. I guess you don't give a crap that they pay taxes, employ Americans, and fund charities. Maybe Obama and the Democrats can shut them down and unemploy some more good Americans working for evil rich people.

I seriously doubt you even know what the Koch brothers own or sell.

The question is do you know? And do you know where they got their money?

Obama, So does Soros but you and your ilk get on here, and try to portray him like Satan Incarnate. What these 2 did was irresponsible and wrong and a slap in the face to the people who were encountering the emergencies. Governors gone, nobody knows where, but wait they are sneaking about making secret plans with their benefactors. Just doesn't smell right.

The question is do you know? And do you know where they got their money?

Unless they are breaking the law, I don't care where they got their money. I'm not into wealth envy or coveting my neighbor's ass.

Governors gone, nobody knows where, but wait they are sneaking about making secret plans with their benefactors. Just doesn't smell right.

Again, when you pick on Obama being on vacation and golfing when national disasters occur, or oil spills occur, or every other event he skipped out on, I'll think maybe you are really concerned. But since you don't and won't, I know your just trying to stir up hate in your ranks, not a difficult task in miserable failures.

Unless they are breaking the law, I don't care where they got their money. I'm not into wealth envy or coveting my neighbor's ass.

Then why do you give a sh!t about them it no skin off your ass.

Again, when you pick on Obama being on vacation and golfing when national disasters occur, or oil spills occur, or every other event he skipped out on, I'll think maybe you are really concerned. But since you don't and won't, I know your just trying to stir up hate in your ranks, not a difficult task in miserable failures.

Compared to BushCo handling of Katrina Obama is a saint.

From what I've seen, they sell oil, paper products, building materials... lots of stuff. What diff does that make? They could very well be breaking laws left and right but you wouldn't give a turd because they are right wing political hacks who support policy that hurts more Americans than their bs philanthropy.

I also know they inherited their dough from their daddy. From what I've read, he made his dough helping build the infrastructure for the former Soviet Union's oil production. Wish his worthless ass kids thought as much of the US and its citizens to stop putting puppets into office who will do nothing to rebuild our own nation.

Your heroes haven't known a days work their whole gd lives. They're pencil pushers and mama's boys.

Then why do you give a sh!t about them it no skin off your ass.

I care about the Koch brothers because the leftists are actively attacking those fellow good Americans, because it is the left attacking and destroying my country, because it is the left grinding the skin off my ass and that of my underage children and generations to come.

The Marxist left, the greedy, hateful, brutal left is what attracts my attention, no matter their target. I know they are up to no good. I know they don't like my country. I know they can't rest as long as orthodox America exists. I know they despise Christians, Jews, and Muslims. I know they love to pit Americans against each other as they watch in glee.

If the left is attacking, it is likely a good American they are trying to take down. I've reviewed the Koch brothers nonsense. The left hates them because they have money, they support conservative causes, and they are religious. That's all. The left is using Alinsky's rules for radicals in an attempt to destroy them and instill fear in others that might be inclined to defend America and religion with their legally and morally acquired wealth.

The left hates them because they have money, they support conservative causes,

That is so much bunk they are very big supporters of PBS.

They support a science show on PBS. The midwest, their home, tunes in to PBS. Is there a problem with that? They caught crap from the left for sponsoring NOVA and PBS caught crap for taking their money.

You prove for me that the Kochs are just regular Americans with varies interests, conservatives, hated because of whipped up BS by the Marxists the Kochs oppose.

Washingtonexaminer (dot com) /blogs/beltway-confidential/left-attacks-koch-brothers-giving-money-pbs

You prove for me that the Kochs are just regular Americans with varies interests, conservatives, hated because of whipped up BS by the Marxists the Kochs oppose.

NO we just detest fascist's that buy so many Republikans that change laws that protect America.

OIGA:

Unless they are breaking the law, I don't care where they got their money. I'm not into wealth envy or coveting my neighbor's ass.

So, it's okay for the Koch brothers to have money and interfere with politics and politicians, but not for Soros?!? Be careful, OIGA, your blatant hypocrisy is showing. The Kochs are under scrutiny right now, but Soros was a target well before that, and by those on the right. And for doing far LESS than the Kochs have been doing for decades.

If a group of Dems left their states during emergencies like this to go have a secret summit with Soros, you on the right would be screaming continuously from the rooftops (and all over Faux Noise) about them being derelict in their duties. I've seen your posts all over the vine talking smack about Obama going anywhere, regardless of what/where he was going, but you defend THIS?!? IOKIYAR

Hypocrite!

I know they don't like my country. I know they can't rest as long as orthodox America exists. I know they despise Christians, Jews, and Muslims. I know they love to pit Americans against each other as they watch in glee.

For you to disparage roughly half the population of this country, the "Marxist...greedy, hateful, brutal left" as you put it, is disgusting. How is it that you are so arrogant and self-rightous that you can so blithely question any other American's patriotism as you just did?!? Just who the hell do you think you are?!? The right, including yourself, seems to think that you can question the left's love of country and that we on the left will just take it. You rightwingers have been doing it for YEARS now, and it's repulsive. "Lefties" have fought and bled for this country, and I can assure you that our love of country runs just as deep as yours despite the fact that we have a different political ideology. Questioning the patriotism of others makes you a "better American" exactly HOW?

Bow down to your corporate masters if you must, but do NOT question the patriotism of those of us who don't. To do so is, in and of itself, contrary to what this country allegedly stands for.

Wear your hypocrisy hat with pride, if you can. And welcome to the "ignore" button. You've proved repetedly that you can't use logic and fact to argue your point, but use blanket hyperbole and ad hominem attacks instead. You are worth no more time.

filibuster-proof Democratic Congress

LMAO!

We are now in the 111^th session of Congress, and it appears that a new record will be set once again. To date, there have been 76 motions filed to end filibusters, resulting in 40 votes on cloture, and 40 instances of it being invoked. If we project these numbers to the end of the 111^th session of the US Senate, that would result in a record number of cloture invocations, and near record levels of motions along with actual votes.

Graphs and everything, here!

The right, including yourself, seems to think that you can question the left's love of country and that we on the left will just take it.

I don't just think I can question the left's love of country, I do question it. What's with the quest to fundamentally change America? That's not patriotic. That was the USSR goal for America with the cold war. Why code talk around the destroy-and-replace agenda of the left? That is the Chinese and the Soros goal for America is today.

I have no interest in any relationship with the Marxist leftists. My ancestors moved away from them to come to America and now they infest here. Most unfortunately, there is no escape from them, so I am forced to face them, and I will do so bravely and to the end. Keep your paws off my freedom and liberty. Keep your eyes off my kids, keep your hand out of my bank account, keep your brute authoritarian self out of my home and my business, keep your central controlling authority ideology out of my doctors office and my insurance purchases, quit using my name and my kids names as co-signers for loans I don't want for spending I don't want. Leave me and my family the hell alone. Do you get it now? Americans do not need you and do not want your Marxist dictatorial wares.

And you will take it. You will obey the law. You will yield to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. You will allow Americans their lives, the peace, freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and for those that choose it, solitude, all as God granted us, not as some Marxist punk President decides we deserve or not.

We know what the radical leftists want, wish for, long for, lust for, that major physical conflict in which they plan to accomplish the eradication of those they want to overthrow, to inflict pain and suffering on Christians, Jews, capitalists, conservatives, those opposing tyranny, those that don't look to government for their salvation.

Bow down to your Marxist government masters if you must, a sign of patriotism deficit.

You will not ignore my posts. The left is compelled to attack. You will check back to see if your feeble rant was effective, whether it garnered votes from fellow patriotism deficit Marxists.

WOW!!! Post #21.20 looks like something from a Glenn Beck rant.

The filibuster worked because the leftist agenda was so radical even some Democrats and the "independent" couldn't bring themselves to hurt their country with the radical extreme leftist agenda of Obama, Reid, and Pelosi.

OIGA- so, was it a filibuster proof Congress or did they work??

Both sides of your mouth are talking and neither knows what the other is saying....

just saying.

Jeez Louise! Someone is really bucking to knock Bachmann off that top banana spot.

The Democrats had a filibuster proof Senate. If the Democrats had all agreed on something it would pass. I can't help it that the Democrats didn't agree to undo the alleged Koch paid for laws that only Kochs could benefit from. That's your party's problem. My point is that the Democrats could have, but didn't, address the Koch brothers when they had full, unstoppable power, because the allegations are BS and the Democrats get as much or more from any existing cronyism laws on the books.

WOW!!! Post #21.20 looks like something from a Glenn Beck rant.

I can't compare to Glenn Beck, but thanks for the compliment anyway.

Jeez Louise! Someone is really bucking to knock Bachmann off that top banana spot.

That's going to be President Top Banana to you in 19 months.

I can't compare to Glenn Beck, but thanks for the compliment anyway.

OK...care for a glass of wine.

Why, no handgun handy?

The Marxist left, the greedy, hateful, brutal left is what attracts my attention, no matter their target. I know they are up to no good. I know they don't like my country. I know they can't rest as long as orthodox America exists. I know they despise Christians, Jews, and Muslims. I know they love to pit Americans against each other as they watch in glee.

What, specifically, have democrats done to be classified as Marxist? What has the Obama administration done that others have not done that would cause you to use this classification. Anyone can say "they're up to no good", "they're trying to destroy out country", etc.

Other than health-care reform, which I know the right doesn't agree with already, but that's a whole other discussion, what specifically (not generalized vagueness) has Obama done that you consider Marxist? Can you give me an example, as opposed to an opinion?

22 - And I guess that's why Obama went on an expensive fundraiser recently when he should have been at talks about the debt? Or why when the unions want protection, he gives it? Heck, he even uses the NLRB to punish a business for - gasp - wanting to run its business as it chooses to.

So the unions don't need protection right now?

Bld
Truth violation. Get real your outrage is weak.... First the talk about the debt is completely control by the GOP.

How do you even begin to talk with people who take orders from foreign corporations and local billionaires.

That oil release by IEA is lowering your family and neighbors cost for gas . So you liked high gas prices huh. Well you certainly would not like it if those gas prices went above $4.50/gal forever.... I guess you probably want those oil corporations to keep your money as profit. Check the crack spread . It's narrowing......

Jake, 22.3 - Tell me - Obama gets his orders and money from unions and billionaires like George Soros and Hollywood. And he got more money from Wall Street in 2008. So, tell me, why is THAT OK? And, think back and remember history. Obama and the Dems controlled that Congress for TWO years - 2 years. They did nothing to cut spending or pass a budget or deal with the debt. No, they pushed the problems onto the Repubs so they could blame the Repubs. They knew that the majority of this country is mindless and would forget; they would listen to their talking points and like little drones would go out and repeat their message. I think your outrage is rather weak.

Oh, and as for the release of the gas. Um, read up. If I am not mistaken, it went onto the open market. NO guarantee it came back to us. And, BEFORE he even did that, prices were going down. Heck, they were down by about $.20 to $.40 per gallon anyway and guess what - they are back up to what they were back in June. Besides, that small amount did not have any impact on long-term prices. Do you really believe that essentially a few days' worth of oil is going to change prices permanently?! That is unbelievable that you could honestly believe his dumbass hype. There was no crisis or need to do that. It was a political ploy to fake people like you into believing he is doing something. He can do something on a permanent basis - allow MORE DRILLING.

#23 - Um, if I remember, aren't Indiana and Texas in pretty good shape because of their governor? I agree with Michigan. When are those people going to wake up and realize that pandering to the left and their unions is not doing their state any favors.

Oh, and based on your theory on why they should be ousted, well, read my post at 25. Your Messiah Obama has been to a very expensive Demo fundraiser very recently when his ass should have been at the debt talks. And when the oil spill happened, he was out golfing. Oh, and let's not forget date night in Chicago with his nasty wife at a time our economy was on the brink right after he was sworn in. He was nowhere to be found.

And if you say that Obama had others working on the problems while he was away at play and fundraising, how do you know the same can't be said for these governors?

Ummmm.........................because nobody in their offices knew where they were? Kind of a big clue.

Hmmm looks like BLD is another Kochsucker/lover.

Obama was not meeting with Koch brothers, however. They don't own Obama, like they do the governors.

23.3 and 23.4 - Ha, Ha - aren't you both cute and funny. I really find it funny that you are outraged over someone rich who supports Obama but you don't care how the unions own him or how Soros owns him or how Hollywood rich own him. Why is that OK? Just because they support your liberal causes?

kochsucker, hmmm, tessy i like that almost as well as baggers.

... but you don't care how the unions own him or ...

I keep reading claims about the powerful unions but maybe I've lived in a right-to-work state so long that I'm out of touch, so I did a little fact checking.

Union membership is about 10.9% in the U.S., ranging from a high of 24.2% in New York to a low of 3.2% in North Carolina (I'm so not surprised). (source) In 2008, President Obama won the states of New York and North Carolina - opposite ends of the union membership spectrum. How do you explain that?

Kate 23.7 - It's not their votes, it's the money they can put behind him to gain votes in other states. New York was won because of NYC and the fact it is liberal and Democratic. I can't believe No. Carolina put him in but guess they won't the next time - especially in light of the Boeing case. That's in So. Carolina, but it shows how this admin. feels and where their allegiance lies.

No. Carolina should realize that with this kind of admin., their ability to attract employers is going to be reduced because it is not pro-union. Why would they want a president who sicks the NLRB on any employer who wants to produce jobs in No. Carolina because he has to keep the unions happy? Actually, why would ANY state want a president who feels he can tell a business where they can and cannot work, and essentially is pushing for every business to be unionized (card check, anyone?).

I think No. Carolina is more conservative and will revert back to its roots in 2012.

I think No. Carolina is more conservative and will revert back to its roots in 2012.

And Virginia will be right alongside...:)

I think No. Carolina is more conservative and will revert back to its roots in 2012.

And Virginia will be right alongside...:)

I don't know about Virginia, but the damage done by team red's take-over of the NC state legislature is turning many right back to blue.

Hot Air will remain Hot Air from the Reps of the Reds, Kate, that's for sure...

Jobs Jobs Jobs anyone? Seems like more of the same old same old Hot Air.

Vote Republican they are known as the no taxes politicians. That is like people I know who are the no work Americans. They have money to drink and play militia odd how that works. But back to no taxes so without taxes you pay no bills that's what the That is what the Republican party stands for. Regan raised the federal taxes three times but now they say hey we all get a free ride. Grandma taught me there are no free rides. Republicans like the tax deferment for jobs going over seas walla less money in our coffers doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize Bush tax cuts are killing our country unpaid for wars have been killing our country millions of jobs gone over seas funded by tax deferments solve this blood letting scenario. Yep thats Republicons for ya. I use to be one now after saying time to wasy my mouth out. Tinkle down does not work it never did. Works great in Russia and China and here doesnt it.

Did spell check to correct typing errors and it would not let me save changes. CRAPPY

It was secret--the governors didn't put it on their schedules. Seems they are hiding something!

THey got it by tracing a corporate jet id mark of a Corporate patron that Rick , Perry Frequently flys around under to Colorado, and Scott was pressed by local media about it so he admitted it. Contrary to Republican thought Governors should not leave the state without divulging to their states taxpayers of where they are going and more importantly who they are getting their marching orders from.. Not "Hiking the Appalachians" Not Vacationing while your state is hit by a blizzard, and not fluffing their corporate masters.

You mean the same corporate masters the democrats bow to??? Please.

Oh no they are hiding something!!! No @!$%#, really? Like those transparent talks about the budget and debt ceiling going on in Washington right now??

Got Reality?

When we overlook the actions of Our Government, the Government will screw us every time at most every turn.

That is what is ALL the hypocrites in office do to separate the Constituents from the Truth, as well as keeping Public Matters of Great Concern in the Dark.

Not defensible from any good point of view, left OR right, tesla013.

And I know you are smart enough to recognize that. BOTH Parties pull @!$%# on us all.

And I know you know I am not a fan of either notsojingo. One must deal with what is in front of one however........

Back on Track with you, Brother!! It is the lesser evil which is most deceptive.

Have a great 4th of July, Everyone!!!

Were you all incensed

Not really...but the righties were.

If you are going to be outraged do the same for your own "messiahs"

25.1 - The difference is, I am not incensed by this gov's actions. The issue is the fact that you and others are incensed by what these men did but not what Obama did. Do you not see the hypocrisy in this or have you all become like the little boy in the fable about the Emperor's New Clothes? You just have bought into the lie so much you can't see logic anymore?

So, you say Obama was golfing for nearly two months straight? Ridiculous.

BLD, He made 3 trips to the Gulf and did not golf. At least if you are going to tell something, get the facts straight. You righties kill me, when something is revealed on one of your "special boys" then the fangs come out. Why is that? After all, its the truth, are they denying that they went?

Talk about hypocrisy. The GOP lambasted Obama for being in Brazil during the start of the civil war in Libya, and yet here's Perry doing precisely the same thing and this man wants to be president? And by the way, BLD, there were several democrats who were critical of the President for his actions so it's hard to say that it's partisan. I'm an Independant and I'm currently turned off by what I see in BOTH parties.

Was Obama meeting with large corporate donors in Brazil and keeping his whereabouts close to the vest? I fail to see the equivalence here. I remember knowing where Obama was and what he was doing. He wasn't sneaking around. As Mark Sanford showed us recently, when a Governor drops off the radar screen, anything can happen.

Lynn, 25.4 - do your research, please, before telling me I am wrong. HIs first visit was May 2:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-05-02-obama-spill_N.htm

The next two didn't come until June, after vacation and important things like picking his NCAA picks:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/101491-obama-visits-gulf-as-bp-as-crisis-from-oil-spill-continues-to-spread

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/the-presidential-planner-17.html

And let's remember how long it took them to do anything, such as suspending some of the dumb-ass rules that favored unions to the exclusion of other boats, etc., who wanted to help with the cleanup.